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post #11 of 18 Old 04-09-2013, 09:17 AM Thread Starter
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OK I will state once again that shadirr, besides being a little overweight, is healthy. He has been checked my 3 vets, a masseuse, and two trainers. He's had his teeth floated, UTD on hooves, coggins, and about to get his 6 way this month. He got stubborn when he learned with his previous owner that throwing his head got him out of work.
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post #12 of 18 Old 04-09-2013, 09:52 AM
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OK I will state once again that shadirr, besides being a little overweight, is healthy. He has been checked my 3 vets, a masseuse, and two trainers. He's had his teeth floated, UTD on hooves, coggins, and about to get his 6 way this month. He got stubborn when he learned with his previous owner that throwing his head got him out of work.
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Without knowing the extent of the injuries from his accident, broken bones on the top side will not be apparent. Head, poll, neck and withers are possiblities.
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post #13 of 18 Old 04-09-2013, 09:59 AM
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A good way to discourage a horse from backing up is to let him back up as far as he wants.
Agreed. We got "Trogdor" ("Merry Boy's Hart, 2008, RIP) when he was 19yo and trained him to CW Reenacting, but he never really relaxed, even though he was always with my two Veterans, "Corporal", and "Ro Go Bar." The troops would get a kick out of him wheeling around and gaited backwards. We just let him do it until he wanted to stop, bc otherwise he was a nice guy and a very good trail horse.
I'm thinking you don't quite believe that this horse is healed. Neither does the trainer who kept jumping off.
I don't want to suggest spending more money on this horse since none of us has that much to spare. But I do think that you should consider that before you proceed, or consider rehoming him.
Is there any trainer who has been CA certified? We have one in our area. You might see and if so have the trainer check out your horse for possibly retraining.

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The woman who rehabbed him spent a lot on vet costs. They did multiple x rays. He had a few pulled muscles but that was all. Thats why she had a masseuse working with him. I also had a vet do a full exam on him when I first got him. Its been almost 5 years since the incident. He has been fine if I put people on him and lead him around. No head tossing or anger. Its just when someone is trying to ride him with no assistance.
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usually when a horse won't go forward it is a sign of pain in the front end. Withers would be my 1st thought and saddle fit. If it goes forward lunging with out a saddle put the saddle on and lunge and see what happens.
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I lunged him yesterday with the saddle and he had no problems. He's been worked before with a saddle, just not with a rider
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I lunged him yesterday with the saddle and he had no problems. He's been worked before with a saddle, just not with a rider
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It is possible with the added weight of a rider is when it is painful.
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post #18 of 18 Old 04-13-2013, 03:18 PM
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I have no idea if this will work for your horse, but my horse had a problem like this. I would get on her and ask her to move forward and she'd back up and toss her head angrily. What I have done is once she backs up, stop her, and then que her to back up again for a long while if she still has a bad attitude, and then stop and ask to go forward.

You could also try using a whip, nothing harsh though, just a light tap.
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