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        11-03-2009, 06:08 PM
      #1
    Foal
    to ride or not to ride??

    I have posted a few questions regaurding my 15 y/o rescue mare. But, if you didn't see them let me give you a little info. Molly is a rescue we purchased as a begginers horse for myself and my kids. She however isn't a "kid broke" horse. After several questions and some reading I decided that I would keep her at least through the winter and take lessons and see if she and I could come to an agreement. I am going to take a lesson in ground work with a trainer (I found a female, oh yeah Molly doesn't like men) and start there. I am hoping that if I can build my confidence on the ground than I can work my way to the saddle. I also intend to take riding lessons with my kids. So my question is, does Molly need ridden or will working on the ground do until I'm readdy to take CONTROL of the reins? Should I have someone come ride her every so often until then? Keep in mind that I am a beginner in this as well, so if you use a horse term please explaine yourself I may not know what your talking about.
         
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        11-03-2009, 06:39 PM
      #2
    Yearling
    If both you and her are green (not very experienced) then I would have someone put some miles on her to ensure she's safe. That doesn't mean you can't ride her as well, but it will do her good to have a more experienced rider see where she's really at.

    I'm going to add one thing here and pls don't take it the wrong way...... don't make excuses for your horse. (she doesn't like men) It's like saying my horse doesn't like rope halters, or being ridden english versus western, or anything else for that matter. The only thing that does is reinforce she's in control. There is no reason, other than maybe severe abuse, that a horse should dislike anything. With proper training anything is achievable.
         
        11-03-2009, 07:00 PM
      #3
    Foal
    I am VERY green, but I don't really know where she's at. She's good with kids moving all around her, and having them led on her back. She did good while I was riding her, but when she decided that she was done she started acting up a bit and because I'm not confident she got her way. That is why I want to take lessons. I think that it's more me than her.

    Like I said she was a rescue, so we don't know her past. All we know is that I walk up to the gate and she comes running, but my husband couldn't catch her with a bag of apples, literally. He rode her before we bought her and she did fine in their small pen, but she wouldn't let him load her. He really didn't think much of it since he really didn't plan on doing much with her. When he tried to ride her at home she ran off with him, reared, bucked, jerked her head, she tried to walk off on him while he tried to mount. She stood stock still when I mounted after his joy ride. I really do understand your opinion and am not making excuses for the horse, I just know how she acts with me and how she acts with him around. He is slowly trying to weasle his way in with a little time just loving on her when she deems him worthy. We are hoping that with some time and affection that she will come to trust again.

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        11-03-2009, 09:47 PM
      #4
    Banned
    ^^I think its possible that she could "not like" men. How does a stallion know when a mare is in heat? HORMONES. Every thing with a gender has them, so she may be reacting to the levels of testosterone that your husband has. Sounds a little weird to say it like that, but I owned a dog once, she was an excellent guard dog but when she was a puppy was completely manhandled by a male vet trying to "assert" his dominance. In her lifetime she only liked two men, my dad and his younger brother, any other man that came in to our house that wasn't attached to our hips she would run out of the house.

    A mustang filly at my barn also has an aversion to cowboy hats because the operation that owned her before our barn did used to practice roping, her being the practice dummy. It took her six weeks for the man who owns her, who wears a cowboy hat religiously, to even let him touch her.

    Just because they don't have the cognition that humans do doesn't mean that they don't know what they know.
         
        11-04-2009, 02:32 AM
      #5
    Weanling
    Well, the first question is, how long have you had Molly? If you liked her at the time, there is a good chance that you need lessons. That's the biggest problem with new own owners, not to be mean but you need to know how to listen to your horse.

    Find a truly god trainer. One that doesn't do anything to "fix" the horse, but helps her become a better mount. Please email me if you wannt more info. I'm a professional, no matter how young, and I want to help.
         
        11-04-2009, 03:22 AM
      #6
    Yearling
    I'd say that maybe get another more experienced rider just to get her going, and you can also ride as well. It should not be a problem at all with getting her going.

    Then the thing with your husband. I can understand some horses do have phobias, but you must do everything in your power to get her in harmony with your husband. Ask him to come everyday and just spend some time grooming her or something. You HAVE to get her to overcome this problem. It will be wise, because what about male vets or something like that.

    If you can, while you are leading Molly let your children just get on her back, so she can get used to them and for your children to also get the feel of her. It is important for that bond to form, especially with her being a rescue horse. Sometimes they just need that little bit extra. = )
         
        11-04-2009, 04:01 AM
      #7
    Showing
    I think I would find a very good male trainer in your area to put a few thousand miles on her and who is willing to work with you too. That way, she would have proper riding and good exposure to a man on a regular basis. Try to visit and ride her at the trainers at least once a week so that the trainer can teach her how to act properly and teach you how to handle her even when she acts up.
         
        11-04-2009, 08:38 PM
      #8
    Weanling
    I'm sorry Smorbs, I usually agree with you, but I would NOT get a male trainer. I would have men regularly exposed to her, but if she's that bad, don't torture her. I have known plenty of amazing horses terrified of men. It took me almost three years to get one to stop being afraid of them... granted she had been insanely abused by only a man. Get the feel of her. Let her gain your trust and then pass it on to other people.
         
        11-05-2009, 01:16 PM
      #9
    Foal
    I have to agree with Piper182 here, you want this training to be as positive as possible. Always set your horse up for success, bringing in a male trainer would make the entire process pretty horrible for Molly.
         
        11-05-2009, 01:29 PM
      #10
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smrobs    
    I think I would find a very good male trainer in your area to put a few thousand miles on her and who is willing to work with you too. That way, she would have proper riding and good exposure to a man on a regular basis. Try to visit and ride her at the trainers at least once a week so that the trainer can teach her how to act properly and teach you how to handle her even when she acts up.
    Very good advice! You wouldn't let her be afraid of a garbage can or a gunny sack so why would you let her be afraid of men (which I don't belive anyway)?
         

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