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        11-07-2010, 02:50 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Question Ride out his crazyness?

    I have a 5 year old gelding that we sent to a trainer to be broke, the trainer bailed on us because she didn't have the time to "ride out his crazyness". I never thought you should have to ride out a horse's crazyness.
    But anyways, now it's up to me to figure out what to do with him. I believe my first step will be to get on him to see how that goes? Bad idea? Someone help me decide what to do. He's naturally curious but has been untrained for MANY years in a herd situation.
         
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        11-07-2010, 02:52 PM
      #2
    Trained
    What is your level or riding experience?
         
        11-07-2010, 03:02 PM
      #3
    Yearling
    What do you mean exactly by the term "craziness?"?
         
        11-07-2010, 03:04 PM
      #4
    Foal
    I've had horses all my life. And have been riding for about 4 years. And I've been a member of horse judging team for 3 years.
         
        11-07-2010, 03:05 PM
      #5
    Foal
    I would think she was referring to his fright when someone gets on his back.
         
        11-07-2010, 03:15 PM
      #6
    Trained
    It's a good idea if you like broken bones and hospitals. If you get him soft on the ground and accepting the saddle well and moving out softly and smoothly then you might try to get on him in a pen where you can't get in too much trouble and see how that goes. Why don't you just find a better horse trainer and see what they think of him. I have gotten a few horses that had been to other trainers that shouldn't have been riding a stick horse and with a little know-how and patience they came around nicely.
         
        11-07-2010, 04:15 PM
      #7
    Foal
    I'm with Kevin on this one. I'd start from scratch like this horse has never been taught a thing. I'd teach everything I want this horse to do from the saddle, but, from the ground first. I'd do some ground driving, desensitizing, flexing, and I'd pony this horse all over the trails and ranch. If I didn't have the time or the knowledge to do this on my own, I'd find me a real qualified trainer to do it. Not the so called trainer you had.
         
        11-07-2010, 04:33 PM
      #8
    Yearling
    I agree with Kevin too, it doesn't sound like you have enough experience to know how to teach the horse to want to be ridden.

    Watch some of the trainers on TV, Clinton Anderson & Dennis Reis are two pretty good ones, to understand the basic training training of a young horse.

    Be aware that there are some horses that never really are good with begining riders. They just are full of energy & life and need a rider that can understand them & work with them. The "craziness" referred to may just be high spirits or it may be something more serious.

    Let a more experienced trainer work with the horse.
         
        11-07-2010, 06:33 PM
      #9
    Foal
    Thanks everyone:) This horse has a lot of energy so I think the plan will be too work with him on the ground after lunging awhile. Do a lot more desensitizing, and we'll be starting from the very beginning. I really wish the trainer hadn't abandoned us when we had such high hopes for this gelding. But I think he's still gotta chance at least with my sister because she's been riding since she was 9. Anymore suggestions are welcome:) I'll try and update on progress.
         
        11-07-2010, 07:26 PM
      #10
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by RodeoGal    
    Thanks everyone:) This horse has a lot of energy so I think the plan will be too work with him on the ground after lunging awhile. Do a lot more desensitizing, and we'll be starting from the very beginning. I really wish the trainer hadn't abandoned us when we had such high hopes for this gelding. But I think he's still gotta chance at least with my sister because she's been riding since she was 9. Anymore suggestions are welcome:) I'll try and update on progress.
    Hi, I too am with Kevin & others. We need much more info before we can offer you any specific advice, but it sounds like you're young & not very experienced(no offense meant if you're not, just going on what you've said), so finding a *GOOD* trainer would be the best move.

    As for your sister, without knowing what her experience/age is, all I will say is there are riders & there are trainers... & there are good trainers. They don't all necessarily equate to the same thing at all. For eg. I've been riding since I was 5yo, but it wasn't until I was around 20yo that I *started* to learn how to train horses. I would ensure you get the horse well started with a good rider and trainer, especially if he's already gained some bad experiences & attitudes through that 'trainer'.

    I don't reckon you're necessarily any worse off for the trainer 'abandoning' you like that, because it sounds like she probably wasn't much chop to be saying/doing that sort of thing. The horse may have become more 'crazy' the longer he was with her.

    As for "work with him on the ground after lunging awhile" I don't agree with *what I perceive* this approach to be. Firstly, 'groundwork' should start at the very basics, of which 'lunging' is one of the higher 'levels'(perhaps think of starting at kindergarten & lunging is 'grade 3'). So I would definitely not try to start at lunging, unless he's already mastered the first few 'grades'. Also it sounds like(again, no offense if I got it wrong) you mean to lunge him to tire him out first, before doing other stuff. Number of reasons why I disagree with that approach(including 'lots of energy' may be nervous/frightened behaviour), but mainly, especially when considering an uneducated horse, you want to do everything in your power to create a great attitude towards you & your games & toys. So I don't reckon forcing the horse to run in endless circles is productive for this. He's more likely to learn to hate the 'work' you make him do that way.
         

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