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    01-03-2012, 07:52 AM
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Green Broke
Riding a 3yo for the first time.. how would YOU do it?

I didn't want to put 'how'd you break a horse' in the title as there was another thread where people got a bit iffy on the term...

But the question still stands, and I'll explain why.

My YO/trainer basically rents the yard, however the owners have their house and stables on the same property and use the same facilities.
They have everything from carriage horses, to foals, to dressage horses, to greenies.
Last year they bought 3 2yos and left them to pasture all summer. Brought them in this winter and have decided 2 of them are too small so are selling them.

The first time one of these 3yo's had a saddle on, a girl came to ride her. She was lunged in a round pen till she was white- I saw no practical training side of it, just to get the beans out.

The girl then got on, tied the reins in a knot and pulled them up to her chest and held on with one hand, light-ish sort of seat and hand on the jesus handle.

And they just made this thing go round, and round, and round rearing, trying to fall over on the girl, lunge whip was being used over and over on it- marks were clearly visible on its hind as it came out, and they beat it till it submitted, basically.

Not only that, my big concern was for the rider- the roundpen hasn't got high walls, only half ones- if she got thrown, she'd have been thrown into or onto them... ouch.

I was shocked, to say the least- is this the norm :S
     
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    01-03-2012, 08:02 AM
  #2
Trained
Not how I've ever seen it done ! Doesnt seem like a very positive experience for the horse !

Personally I do the first few rides in a roundpen. The first 2 I generally just walk/halt/change direction.
     
    01-03-2012, 08:02 AM
  #3
Yearling
Well that sounds horrible. I start with ground work and some light round pen/lunge work and ground driving with the saddle on, stopping backing turning, doing little patterns with cones, walking over poles. I also like to get up above them either from another horse and pony them or stand on something so they get to see me up there. Then put weight in each stirrup and then get on and off on and off.

This does not happen all in one day but over a period of time. Each time the horse feels comfortable and confident with one task, I'll add something on and build on the foundation.

So far with this method I haven't had to work a horse into a horrible sweat or had any kind of bucking episodes with my horses. It works for me.
     
    01-03-2012, 08:04 AM
  #4
Green Broke
I was wondering, to be fair. The mare isn't a difficult sort anyway, but she was up on her hind legs, going as fast as her legs could carry her, and the mouth hanging open as the girl just pulled back on the reins.

Was quite upsetting to watch, really. I saw my trainer shake her head and walk away, but haven't had chance to chat to her about it.. made my stomach twist... poor little horse.
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    01-03-2012, 08:10 AM
  #5
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Oh my goodness, poor horse. :( She's going to have her early years and trust in people ruined completely, if this is going to continue like this. It by all means should NOT be the norm!

As for how I would ride such a young horse for the first time - well, I haven't done it in practice, so my opinion is not one of a pro, but I have observed others do it. And the way that seemed to be the most suitable for my liking was - first, making sure that the horse is completely comfortable with the saddle. Then, making sure, that the horse is completely comfortable with a rider leaning over his back, swinging a leg over his back, mounting for a minute and dismounting. Only after that the horse should be either asked to walk a few steps, then stop, either led by another person from the ground, but no more than just a little and as far as the horse is comfortable with it. The bit should not be used, so that the horse would not be confused by too much input information. The first time should leave pleasant associations and willingness to accept the rider at all times.
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    01-03-2012, 08:16 AM
  #6
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Well it certainly doesn't sound like the norm to me. Bad situation made by humans. No error of the horse at all. The horse was set up for failure. Sounds like nothing positive came out of it. Sounds like the horse learnt nothing but bad lessons and bad experiences - especially for a 'first time with a saddle on'.
If this is how they do things 'the norm', I bet this will either turn into a 'dangerous' horse or a horse who is forced into submission.

Wish you had taken a video of it.
     
    01-03-2012, 08:20 AM
  #7
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by ConfusciusWasAGreatTeachr    
Well it certainly doesn't sound like the norm to me. Bad situation made by humans. No error of the horse at all. The horse was set up for failure. Sounds like nothing positive came out of it. Sounds like the horse learnt nothing but bad lessons and bad experiences - especially for a 'first time with a saddle on'.
If this is how they do things 'the norm', I bet this will either turn into a 'dangerous' horse or a horse who is forced into submission.

Wish you had taken a video of it.
I have never seen it before, but the couple are fairly old school.. he's in his 70's, she's in her early 40's.. got married in May.. you'd have thought it was for money but she's the one with it o.0

By the shaking of my trainer's head I would say it may be the norm for them, but not for her and others.. but you always get it somewhere.

If I could have, I would have but I was walking Duffy and it would have been too obvious... next time if I am around I will film it and say I know someone who is interested in the filly... poor mite.
     
    01-03-2012, 08:28 AM
  #8
Yearling
Poor thing.

By the time I get on a 3-year old, it has worn the saddle, been broken to the bridle via long reins, had me leaning on its back, and with the one I started myself (as opposed to helping other people), I'd even led him around with someone balancing an exercise ball on the saddle. Another good trick is to put a sack of flour or something like that on the saddle, but I never got a hold of such an item but as he was such a cool character, didn't think it was necessary anyway. When I got on the horse for the first time, he was completely unfazed.
     
    01-03-2012, 09:04 AM
  #9
Showing
Definitely sounds like a rough start. Poor mare.

Ground work first, they learn to yield shoulders & hips from the ground, sidepass from the ground. They get sacked out, learn to accept a saddle quietly standing loose next to me, lunge both direction with verbal commands - w/t/c, stop, turn, whoa, then I ground drive them until they are proficiently steering, stopping and backing up as well as learn to accept the bit and what it means as far as commands.

After that is all done, then I will back them. I jump up and down next to their sides (both sides - I always mount/dismount from both sides - really anything I do on one side, I do on the other) Then I get on. (I'm not a fan of laying over them, I'd rather have my legs across if they're going to blow than be hanging off the side) Generally with preparation before hand, it's no big deal. They've got basic steering and a good knowledge of what whoa means. If you take the time to set them up for success they will rarely fail.
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    01-03-2012, 11:12 AM
  #10
Yearling
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Originally Posted by DuffyDuck    
I was wondering, to be fair. The mare isn't a difficult sort anyway, but she was up on her hind legs, going as fast as her legs could carry her, and the mouth hanging open as the girl just pulled back on the reins.

Was quite upsetting to watch, really. I saw my trainer shake her head and walk away, but haven't had chance to chat to her about it.. made my stomach twist... poor little horse.
That just makes me sad...
     

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