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    11-14-2009, 09:04 PM
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Ah, thank you kevinshorses! It's worth a shot - though I've had bad knees my entire life. I'm pretty sure horseback riding hasn't helped - in the last few years it's become pretty drastic, regardless of the saddle. It seems to relate directly to the angle of my knee, so riding with my stirrups a little longer helps but often I end up just going stirrupless or bareback.
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    11-14-2009, 10:43 PM
Hey MM I have a similar problem, though only with one knee and I have found that the position of my ankle dictates how much my knee hurts. The guys are right about getting that stirrup twisted to ease the pressure off your leg. I have also discovered that if I wear boots that restrict my ankle movement it really effects my knee in a painful way. Nice flexible boots help.

I do wonder about this riding bareback thing. I personnally rode bare back from the age of 6 through to 15, simply because I had no saddle. At 15 I got given my first saddle and I never looked back. In some ways it feels like there is more skill in riding in a saddle. I also have a friend who is a saddle fitter and she is very discouraging of bareback simply because it does put more pressure on one point of the horses back rather than distributing the weight evenly down the spine, which of course is what the bars of the saddle are for.

I don't think that riding bareback is an indication of how good you are as a horseman. I rode for hours bare back, anywhere and everywhere, trotted galloped and jumped my pony and first horse bareback. I had legs that could crush coconuts LOL. I had to LEARN how to ride in a saddle whereas bareback was easy. I guess it is all relative to how your riding education develops.

By the way Riosdad I never had any assistance from an adult any time during my riding youth, when I was six I started catching the pony on my parents farm and riding it, bareback with an old bridle held together with baling twine. That pony beat the crap out of me for six years but with the help of no one I persisted. I got my first horse brush when I was thirteen, I was so proud of it and still have it to this day.
    11-14-2009, 10:46 PM
By the way off the topic, the Polish cavalry were the greatest horsemen in the world and they used saddles. They were the winged horseman.
    11-16-2009, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by kiwigirl    
By the way off the topic, the Polish cavalry were the greatest horsemen in the world and they used saddles. They were the winged horseman.
ive never heard of them!! But I will definitely have to take a look ;)

At the 'high schools' of riding they ride with saddles but without stirrups.

Very early on the greeks rode stirrupless (WOW can you imagine goign into war without stirrups?! Lol) xenaphon was a great horseman and he was greek, he was in no way to 'rough' on the horses, he loved them :P I would totally recomend his book, its very different. But fun to read!!!
    11-16-2009, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RiosDad    
Your fooling yourself if you think that is what riding bridles is about. As Kevin put it earlier "you are only stealing a ride".
how is that stealing a ride? Ya, at first I just hopped on and hoped for the best, but we can do everything we can do with a bridle.

I agree with kevins definitions on 'stealing a ride' and stuff... and I truly don't think I am.
    11-16-2009, 11:18 AM
Originally Posted by kiwigirl    
By the way off the topic, the Polish cavalry were the greatest horsemen in the world and they used saddles. They were the winged horseman.
Polish calvary charged German tanks during WWII with expected results but they fought very bravely. Fantastic horseman and warriors.
    11-16-2009, 11:41 AM
Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
Polish calvary charged German tanks during WWII with expected results but they fought very bravely. Fantastic horseman and warriors.
The British in the Charge of the LIGHT BRIGADE we equally brave. Out of 660 or so only 190 or so where still mounted and able to continue after the charge.

    11-16-2009, 07:01 PM
The Polish Cavalry engaged in no less than 16 classic cavalry charges in the 36-day campaign from September 1-October 5, 1939. They fought both the German and Russian armies in desperate by typically successful skirmishes. The most notable of these included the night charge of the 11th Polish Legion Uhlan Regiment that liberated the town of Kaluszyn on September 12th. As told by Italian war-correspondent, Mario Appelius, the 14th Jazlowiec Uhlan Regiment charged thrugh german lines during the Battle of Wólka Weglowa on September 14th, allowing trapped Polish forces to withdraw from a German encirclement. The same regiment, charging as a hole with flags flying at the end of the month broke through a Soviet encirclement at Husynne. On September 23rd the 25th Wielkopolska Uhlan Regiment fought what could be the last cavalry on cavalry engagement when it forced a smaller German cavalry unit off of a hill near Krasnobród and then went on to capture a divisonal headquarters. Contrary to popular belief and Nazi myth, Polish Cavalry was able to charge German mechanized units and make a difference. On the first day of the war, September 1, the German 4th Panzer Division met the Polish Wolynska Cavalry Brigade head on about 100 miles south of Warsaw and lost more than 50 tanks in the exchange.
The Polish cavalry was wiped out in the campaign as a force but its remnants fought in both the British and Soviet armies later in the War. Elements of the regular polish cavalry served with the Canadian reorganized 1st Free Polish Armored Division fighting in tanks across Western Europe in 1944, ending up capturing the German naval base at Wilhelmshaven in May 1945. The Soviets, even after invading Poland in 1939 and snuffing out the flower of the Polish officer corps at Katyn, raised Polish units to fight under the red banner once Hitler invaded the Soviet Union in 1941. One of these Free Polish units was the 1st Warsaw Cavalry Brigade (Samodzielna Warzawska Brygada Kawalerii). A horse mounted cavalry brigade of some 1,500 men it fought on the Eastern Front in the latter part of the war. Ironically two squadrons of the brigade charged German lines in Western Pomeria on March 1, 1945 while assisting the Red Army in the invasion of Hitler's Germany only six weeks before the end of the war. It was the not only the last Polish cavalry charge but the last cavalry charge period.
The Polish Cavalry truly lived up to the motto of "Honor I Ojczyzna" (Honor and Fatherland)

Read more: http://ww2history.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_polish_wwii_cavalry_in_1939#ixzz0X4MCiYMp

As you guys maybe able to tell I am very proud of my Polish heritage, thanks for your input Kevin, it is nice to know that someone else recognizes that the Polish were fighting.

As for the English, part of the reason the Polish were relegated to using cavalry was because they weren't allowed to arm up, even though they kept warning the French and English that Germany was amassing an army. So while the Germans created superior fire power and weaponry, Poland it's most feared and hated neighbour was forced to sit on it's hands. When all hell broke loose it"s full fury fell on Poland, yet despite cavalry and antiquadated arms Poland was able to do more damage to the German army in the three months it took for it to fall than the entire French and British army were able to achieve over the next three years.

History lesson over. Sorry guys.

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