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        05-19-2010, 12:00 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    Angry

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    Originally Posted by Chella    
    I have read that when they rear up and you are ready for it you should snap them on the head with a crop as soon as they go up.
    That is most definitely NOT the fix. It will only make things worse, make your horse head shy and frankly, that's abuse. Don't hit your horse in the head, face, nose, eye, period.
         
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        05-19-2010, 12:33 PM
      #12
    Trained
    Allowing a horse to continue dangerous behavior is not only abusive but stupid. If whacking that horse between the ears with a crop will stop the rearing then it is what needs to happen. It may not stop it but as a last resort it's worth a try.
         
        05-19-2010, 12:44 PM
      #13
    Foal
    I got a green rearing horse not so long ago and I used the egg technique, except, I just hit her with my fist between the ears. This supposedly makes them think that theyre hitting their heads on a "ceiling". It worked really well and he never ever rears anymore unless I tell him to. You can always feel when theyre about to rear, specially if she's done it with you lots of times, youll know the signs,

    Good luck and let us know how she's doing..
         
        05-19-2010, 12:47 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Drummerboy, it is ok to hit them on the head because they wont see its you, because tou're on them so, they wont get head shy and rthey just think theyre hitting their heads on something.. horses withstand kicking from each other, a little human smack in between the ears isnt going to harm them, just confuse them. It will be more sore for her if she starts rearing over backwards or something I think..
         
        05-19-2010, 12:58 PM
      #15
    Trained
    The rearing is only a symptom of the problem. Not the problem itself. If you have to hit the horse between the ears to stop the rearing and save your life then do it but then you will still have to adress the reason your horse is rearing or the problem will manifest itself some other way.
         
        05-19-2010, 02:40 PM
      #16
    Banned
    Okay, let's talk about the egg solution first. It's interesting that nobody posted they had used that method, they've just *heard* about it.

    Can you really carry a raw egg on a difficult horse, riding outside the ring and at the exact right moment, fish it out of your pocket and crack the horse between the ears with it? Assuming the horse's neck and your arms are the correct length? Really? How many times (and how many eggs?) are you going to have to go through this exercise before you get it right? What if the egg gets broken (highly likely) before the horse rears?

    As far as cracking them between the ears with a stick, this *can* work if handled exactly right, by which I mean you must time the stroke as the horse comes up of the ground and near the top of its rear for it to be effective. If it happens too early or too late it doesn't work, and if you hit the horse someplace other than between the ears and without the correct timing, yes, it qualifies as abuse. So anybody who's confident enough that they can execute this manouever correctly while staying on the rearing horse, have at it.

    Finally and more on point, as kevinshorses has said, why not just correct the cause of the behavior?
         
        05-19-2010, 03:47 PM
      #17
    Trained
    Thank you Kevin and Maura!

    Everytime I hear the egg/crop response I want to ask "Why not fix the problem, not just repress the symptom?"

    Soda reared for a little while, I "cured" him of rearing by addressing the other issues (barn sourness, fear, distrust, etc). Sure it took a little time, but not much. He would rear in a similar manner to the OP's horse, generally when I wouldn't let him run home or if I was trying to get him further away from home than he wanted too. I basically used Maura's method to fix the problem.
         
        05-19-2010, 05:21 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    To prevent rearing drive the horse sideways - as in leg yield. This causes them to be bent (as mentioned previously) so that the horse is looking in one direction, say to the left, while the rider is using the left leg to drive the horse sideways to the right.

    When they're stepping underneath themselves they can not rear - they'd be off balance.

    A basic training technique is the minute horse stops (and you didn't ask horse to stop) ask ONCE nicely for forward (be certain you're not holding horse still with reins). If horse leaps forward let them do it - idea is to ask by squeezing with calves/lightly kicking with legs for forward and any forward response is OK - including a gallop. If horse takes off pull them into a circle which you gradually make smaller until you have control.

    If you ask for forward nicely and don't get it then kick hard and/or hit with whip for forward. Again - do NOT hold on to the reins as you ask for forward, any forward is OK but rearing up, backing up or not moving forward is NOT OK. If that doesn't do it kick and hit as hard as you can while bending horse to side (getting horse off balance) and yell if you have to. Horse should go forward.

    Horse is testing you to see who's boss. You have to establish that you are the boss AND that you will be fair - you will ask ONCE nicely for forward, after that all "you know what" breaks loose.
         
        05-19-2010, 09:49 PM
      #19
    Foal
    FYI- I was being sarcastic about the egg and two by four...
    PLEASE don't do either :)
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        05-20-2010, 05:29 AM
      #20
    Foal
    Well what if the problem is old? Like the horse started rearing in the first place because of bad fitiing tack, for example, then it frotted in a field for a year or two, then you get it, use tack that fits it, but it still rears because its become like an automatic reflex for him to rear everytime you ask him to do something he doesnt like? Because then the tack usnt on him anymore so you can't remove it to adress the problem directly, then what should you do? And squeezing them forward and asking them nicely doesnt help one bit?
         

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