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post #1 of 13 Old 04-05-2013, 08:50 AM Thread Starter
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It's great to see how good trainers can bring a colt along. Now it's time to see them work with the crazy horses that people have ruined. It would also save them from slaughter. Maybe if we all email this request to the organizers, perhaps this will come to fruition.
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post #2 of 13 Old 04-05-2013, 01:07 PM
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I think they should have it so that each professional trainer is paired with a total horse newbie (human being), and the competition is on how fast and well they can train the newbie to work with a horse.
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Now that's a great idea. Green horse, green rider and hopefully no black and blue. The problem is, now many people would profess to be a newbie just to partake? I want to see the rank older horses.
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I also always thought it would be interesting if they took horses that are widely regarded as less desirable. I think it would be awesome to see them work with older BLM mustangs or some off the track horses. Yes, quarter horses are wonderful but each year its well known quarter horses that are getting their young stock worked with.

I also like the idea of working with new horse people. Its great if you can ride a horse but can its new owner?
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You will never see a public display of re-training spoiled horses. It is a lot like making sausage: It can be a really ugly process that most people would not like to watch, but the finished product is sooooo good. You do not effectively un-do bad behaviors (especially if you do not them to return) without those behaviors having consequences and without giving the horse a really good reason to not continuing those bad behaviors.

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You will never see a public display of re-training spoiled horses. It is a lot like making sausage: It can be a really ugly process that most people would not like to watch, but the finished product is sooooo good. You do not effectively un-do bad behaviors (especially if you do not them to return) without those behaviors having consequences and without giving the horse a really good reason to not continuing those bad behaviors.
I love the analogy of making sausage for retraining spoiled horses, so true...

I wonder sometimes if force feeding creates acceptance to a point, rather than being completely appalled when they witness such methods.
In my mind, "those" methods are perfectly acceptable given the situation because I have done some of them and seen them work whereas a good portion of new horse owners has not and been "Disney-fied" in horse training methods.
But I am sure there would be a huge outcry if such an event should occur regardless...

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You make a very valued point in that retraining is messy, and there is significant public outcry when a trainer steps out of that bubble. Then again, our society as a general rule is so out of touch with horses and the damage that a horse can do I think there would be benefit to seeing it. So many people see road to the horse or they watch a clinician at an expo and think I can train my horse, which may or may not be true.
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I think RTTH is neat for what it is, but I don't see it changing to any spoiled horse or people training. Horses are so much easier to deal with than people first of all.

And yes, retraining is messy sometimes.
You remember Parelli abusing that stallion, Catwalk? He was trying to do it quickly for the camera and he ended up making the animal unsound to continue. Now mind you, anybody who knows their butt from a hole in the ground knows that you can't retrain quickly. It's just not going to happen in most cases. So that was another of his stupid moves trying to do it live and keep the audience entertained.

Retraining is a long boring process in a lot of stages so it would be hard to keep the audience entertained with it and it probably can't be done successfully in most cases in the short period of time RTTH has.
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In a recent AQHA magazine they talked about a show that had just gone on... I forget what it's called. But it's basically the same thing as RTTH, except the trainers stand outside the rings and coach a family member in starting the horse. It is a good concept, but I don't think anyone they coached were newbies.
And yes doing clinics about retraining horses would be GREAT, but it does get a bit ugly, and people who don't really know that much about horses in general would see it as abuse or mistreatment. I've heard of a lady riding by while a trainer was working with a horse... She freaked out at the trainer for 'hitting' the horse.. The horse was panicking and she was trying to stop it from running over her while it panicked... So maybe doing a public display of retraining problem horses isn't really the best idea..

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Although...it would be cool if the trainer was given a problemed horse and submitted videos of it's progress. That would probably be more interesting to the audience than seeing it live. It can take a long time, not really something that would be TV worthy live.
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