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        01-18-2009, 08:54 PM
    Green Broke
    Road Thunder today without an anchor

    I had my Bf's because come out and give me some tips on things I can do with thunder. She worked him good...guess im not working him hard enough lol. Then I got on without someone leading him! He did good, not spooky, prefers to walk in a straight line and doesn't care for turning. I know he was tired, but towards the end of our 15 minute walk ride, he WOULD NOT walk at all lol. He is very stubborn, and doesn't have a whole lot of "go" to him. He's going to be a horse that runs out of gas often I think lol. Any ideas how to keep him moving? Turning him in a circle isn't working right now, he just rubbernecks. I am getting help, but while I work on him on my own...
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        01-18-2009, 10:38 PM
    Dressage whip. I am assuming he is very green?

    He has to get out of the 'stopping' mentality quickly. It can lead to a multitude of problems (bucking, rearing, kicking, traveling sideways, not wanting to turn). It is a lack of forward motion.

    If he understands that leg pressure means 'go now', then carry the dressage whip. Ask him lightly with the legs. When he decides he doesn't feel like going, tap/smack with the whip--whatever it takes to get him to move forward. (Try this OFF of the saddle to make sure he doesn't buck and WILL go forward with the tap of the whip). Do NOT nag him with your legs--that just teaches him to ignore the aid.

    When you ask for a walk/trot, he needs to respond, and with purpose! Don't let him lollygag, and don't continually urge him forward with your legs. If he decides he doesn't feel like walking any more and you didn't ask him to stop, a pop of the whip would be appropriate.
        01-18-2009, 11:23 PM
    Green Broke
    Oh yes, he is VERY green. Today was the first time I had been on him urging him forward without someone leading us. I have a crop that I tried to tap his butt, but he ignores it. He listens to the whip from the ground while lunging though. I need to do some more ground work with him, he's just very lazy (and he'll be 3 in april! Where's the spunk? Lol). I think I might have someone work us on the lounge line at a walk so he understands the walk that he's used to and the leg aids.
        01-19-2009, 09:02 PM
    Green Broke
    I'd recommend going someplace you are comfortable riding him such as a round pen and then use the reins or a crop to get him to move. If you keep urging at the same level or even increasing, but he doesn't move, then you are only teaching him that you aren't going to make him do it and he can get away with just standing there.

    You need to give him a squeeze, then a nudge, then a strong nudge, then a nudge and a tap with the whip/reins, and then a smart smack w/ the whip/reins. This should take place fairly quickly. At first it will probably surprise him and he'll take off somewhat fast because he wasn't expecting you to actually make him do it.

    Does that make sense?
        01-19-2009, 11:30 PM
    Green Broke
    Ya actually, that's a great tip! Thanks so much :)
        01-28-2009, 06:21 PM
    Lots of freelunging usually helps.
        01-28-2009, 06:23 PM
    Green Broke
    I just asked, no response, asked harder, no response, so then I swatted his butt with the crop and urged him forward in a turn. After a little bit of that, he now responds to just a squeeze :)
        01-28-2009, 09:26 PM
    Lol everyone already said was I was going to say. When they don't want to go a smack on the butt with a whip or end of the reins normally helps;)
        01-28-2009, 11:43 PM
    Green Broke
    Ya, and it finally clicked in my head to be ahead of the game and swat him just before he hesitates and it keeps him going..ya blonde moment lol. But I really appreciate eveyrone's advice on here it really helped!
        01-30-2009, 12:06 AM
    Yea, it makes it alot easier to teach him not to stop till you tell him to then it does to get him going again after he already stops on his own. That probably pisses him off lol.

    If that makes sense

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