^^ Agreed, Kevin. I started him under saddle after his mate was killed by a rattlesnake bite just for fun. I have been there and done that as far as training average sized horses but never messed with a draft under saddle. I don't really have a PURPOSE for wanting to ride him except that it is a wonderful feeling to be 8 feet off the ground looking down at all the other "small" horses around. The main reason that I need help getting on at this point is that he has only been ridden 6 times!! He hasn't quite figured out the whole stand still for mounting thing just yet but he will by the time I am through with him. He actually has a very soft mouth, he and I just have a difference of opinion occasionally (that will get much better with mileage though). LOL. Even if I wasn't riding him, he would still be living with us because as soon as Rafe gets old enough to go along with us, we are gonna start using John and Bessie on a wagon as a team............just because it's fun!!! IMHO, not much sense in having horses unless you push yourself to advance your abilities and have a little fun sometimes. I do both when riding John.