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        03-05-2008, 08:36 AM
      #21
    Deb
    Foal
    To the last two posters - Years ago, I went to a rodeo once, didn't think anything of the cruelty aspects of it, because I didn't realize that there was cruelty involved. But then someone mentioned it, and I began to think about it, and then I began to research it a bit, and view videos, and now I understand what is really involved in making those animals perform for the entertainment of people. Someone asked about where rodeos are so I am assuming that they are where I was on this issue so many years ago. If a person loves horses, and respects life in all its forms, it seems that it is an obligation to let those people have the opportunity to make an educated decision on what they are going to support with their hard earned dollars.

    By taking the attitude of "what can I do about it", you've given away your opportunity to have any effect for the good. In Cloverdale, BC, Canada, where I used to live, they had an annual rodeo. Sanctioned, prize money, the whole nine yards. Every year, animal rights activists attended and tried to make changes. Last year, due to one more death of a calf during a roping contest (poor little guy got his back broken while running away), the city councelmembers voted to eliminate the calf roping. That is what some people who were willing to take a stand accomplished because they didn't take the same attitude as you.

    What is "not cool" is refusing to speak out against something that is wrong.
         
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        03-05-2008, 08:56 AM
      #22
    Deb
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jazzyrider

    ok firstly I do agree that it is an issue that should be talked about etc etc etc but, we don't need to keep bringing it up in here. Its a topic that will always end up in a heated argument with rude alerts left right and centre and eventually the thread goes downhill so far that it gets locked and then no one is happy.

    Don't recall any rude alerts here.


    Now my so called intended insult was not intended as that nor was it aimed directly at you. And yes extremism can get good results but I for one know its an uphill battle and get quite tired of people whinging about things but do they go out personally and form a movement on these things?? Maybe you do but I don't know you so im in no position to judge the same as you are in no position to judge me based on the fact that I don't think a heated argument about the matter is going to change anything.

    You are right, making positive changes is always an uphill battle, because people are resistant to change and do prefer to go through life without taking responsibility for the way things are. But does that mean we should just pretend bad things, aren't bad?

    You think my riding reference is silly???? Its an illustration. Think about it...we out a saddle on their back which in many cases can hurt the horse if not done properly, we put a huge piece of metal in their mouth that pinches and digs, we put side reins, martingales and other constricting items on our horses and think we are better than the next discipline??? How?? Thinking that one of us is better than the other is a little egotistical and shows how blind people can be once they get a bee in their bonnet.

    Reread my previous post where I suggested what sort of things you and I, loving horse owners don't do to our horses. These things are standard at rodeos.

    I no I certainy don't so to my horses what you are mentioning there and yes, if you were to try and mess with my horses or my dogs I would have you arrested after I beat the living daylights out of you for hurting on of my animals. Having said that, I would probably do the same thing whether they were my horses or not because contrary to what you think I do give a hoot about all horses I just understand that I can't do much about a discipline steeped in tradition and I don't feel that running around carrying on about it is going to do any good.

    Slavery used to be steeped in tradition. Dog fighting in America used to be steeped in tradition and no one gave it a thought, but consider Michael Vick, the big shot football player who is now spending time in jail thinking about his sins. There are all kinds of things steeped in tradition that we now look upon with disgust, all because someone stood up and said it's wrong.




    And I have taken huuuge offence to the idea that I would sit back and watch the abuse without feeling guilty. I personally don't go to either rodeos or the races because of how I feel about them but hey, who in the world am I to stop anyone else from doing it??? Even more offence taken to the thought that I would also celebrate this kind of behaviour.

    There are numerous references that I have seen where supporters of rodeos have stated "it's a celebration of old time ranching life", and if you took that phrasing personally, I am sorry, it was a sort of generalised statement.

    Please, no more discussion about the politics of rodeos. Any answers pertaining to the original question are fine but I don't think the thread needs to be bought down anymore[/quote]

    Are you a moderator or the great censor of the internet that you decide who can make any particular type of response? If someone asks where rodeos are, or what people think of rodeos, then I'm going to speak up because it is the right thing to do. And it seems to me that as long as I have not used bad language, I have not called anyone names or called into question their parentage, I have a right to do that just like you have the right to disagree with me on it or ignore my posts altogether.








         
        03-05-2008, 09:13 AM
      #23
    Trained
    Yes im a mod and as such its up to us to keep things going along nicely. After a while you get to know when a thread is going to turn upside down.

    And yes, you can speak your mind BUT hijacking and flaming are against forum rules therefore something must be said. Anyone who is going to respond to a thread not to answer the question but rather to have a go at someone is deliberately fanning the flames to start a fire.

    If you think I think of myself as the great sensor of the internet or whatever then so be it. I would rather be that than be someone known for making trouble and getting up in arms all the time. (not saying that you are)

    After a while you begin to think of everyone here as family and as such I look after people here like they are my family. If someone starts having a dig at someone when all they did was ask a question then I am going to defend them. It doesnt matter what spin you put on it, there is no call for bringing up your feelings about rodeos in a thread that wasnt even asking what you think of rodeos.

    And I didnt say there were any rude alerts yet. I said : its a topic that will always end up in a heated argument with rude alerts left right and centre and eventually the thread goes downhill so far that it gets locked and then no one is happy. see I said will END UP in an argument with rude alerts...etc etc etc

    I do see your point and I understand it but there is a right and a wrong way to go about expressing your concerns and when you hijack a thread you are going about that the wrong way

    I feel that the OP's question has been answered therefore I am going to lock the thread now. I can't see this going anywhere or the OP finding out any new information.
         
        03-05-2008, 09:18 AM
      #24
    Trained
    To the OP - if you have any more questions on this subject please feel free to pm either myself or crackrider or someone else who will know the answer to your questions and we will be only too happy to answer them
         

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