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    03-04-2010, 09:35 PM
My first thought was broken saddle tree. Glad to hear you were bareback.

I have a gelding that loves to try and roll. But I see the signs and just put him to work when he's under saddle. Whe we are coming down the trail and I see him putting his head down to look at a sandy spot, or in the winter, he'll start looking at fluffy powder snow.

Now once the the saddle is off, It's fair game for him to roll after a ride.
I always lead my horses over to a nice spot and give them the chance before I load them up in the trailer.

Or a video of him rolling in the sand.

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    03-04-2010, 09:39 PM
She was probably itchy

But that still doesnt make it ok
    03-04-2010, 09:52 PM
Because she wanted to roll...?

I once saw a girls horse roll while in the dam at PC. It was freakin hilarious! She and the horse ended up covered in mud! Of course it may have been funnier because I didn't like her and she was horrible to her horses, lol. She had to ride the rest of training in wet jods :]

I'm with the others on never, ever letting a horse roll with a rider. So, so dangerous.
    03-04-2010, 10:01 PM
You might break your leg next time, like the lady at my barn !
    03-04-2010, 10:04 PM
^ Who might?
    03-04-2010, 10:10 PM
Regarding the 'arresting' thing.... the problem with that method is that horses don't have the cognitive ability that humans do. You can explain to a human "you're being arrested because you did X, and that was wrong." You cannot explain that to a horse. I employ a 3-second rule with horses; if they do something wrong, I have 3 seconds to react, and if I can't react quick enough, I move on as if nothing happened.
Horses cannot think beyond "I did X and got Y reaction" and it's all in a very very short period of time. Your horse was allowed to roll, then got up and was punished - to your horse, the punishment was for standing up, NOT for rolling.
The bottom line is that you taught your horse that it was OK to roll while you were on her.

By ALLOWING the horse to roll (i.e. If you DIDN'T get after the horse AS it was going down or as SOON as it was down) you taught her that it was OK to roll. Period.
The best way to deal with a horse that's going to roll? Don't let it. As soon as you feel the horse start to 'set up' (sniffing, pawing, getting front and hind legs together) you get after it. If the horse is sneaky and DOES get down on the ground , you don't just stand there, you get after the horse.
Does that make sense?

I will NEVER allow a horse to roll undersaddle (figuratively speaking. If the horse is working, it is NOT allowed to roll - doesn't matter if the horse is on a lunge line with just a halter, or being ridden bareback, or being ridden with a saddle.
I DO let Denny roll after most workouts. I take the saddle/surcingle/whatever else off, lead him to a spot, take his halter or bridle off, and say "ok, you can roll" and THAT is the only time he's allowed to roll while 'in work' with me.
    03-04-2010, 10:12 PM
Originally Posted by wild_spot    
^ Who might?
the person who lets their horse get down & roll while they are riding !!!
    03-04-2010, 10:16 PM
Originally Posted by PechosGoldenChance    
This, to me, isn't really that big a deal. I personally think I was being tested here but tell me what you think.

Why do you think she did this??
1) Yes, you were being tested, and she won.

2) Probably because she was itchy and didn't care that you were on/near her. To me, that is also a huge sign of disrespect.
    03-04-2010, 10:16 PM
Why did she? Well, she wanted to and you let her. That simple.
    03-04-2010, 10:19 PM
I don't understand how you are supposed to be taken seriously when you spell "ridiculous" wrong. My horse loves to roll, as most horses do, but I would never EVER let him roll while being ridden, lead around, or lunged. When I free lunge him, I let him roll before and after, but that is it. I'm just saying, if it were me, I would have never let my horse finish rolling. They think in that minute and corrections must be made right then and there. One slip up like that, can cause a very long tme of training and corrections to solve, seeing as you have let her know that it is "okay" to roll during that situation.

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