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        03-08-2010, 12:54 PM
      #71
    Weanling
    I agree, they can catch you off guard!

    My horse never rolled with me on her, but one time I was giving her a bath and I turned my back for a moment to get the scraper or something and when I turned back around she was down on the ground rolling!

    It was just startling then...but I did think about how bad it could have been if she had been tied to something instead of being ground tied like she was. She never did it again though, but she was the sort of horse that every time I took off her halter after riding, she was down rolling in 30 seconds.
         
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        03-08-2010, 04:22 PM
      #72
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smrobs    
    When I have a horse begin to roll with me, I will either a) whop them on the ass with the bridle reins or b) stick them with a spur. *gasp* I know, but I will not get off of them and I will MAKE them get centered back on their feet. Most horses will only do it once after realizing what a mistake it is. Frankly, if you had time to realize what she was doing and get out of the way, then you had time to reprimand her before she ever got all the way down. By standing by and allowing her to finish rolling, you were telling her "Okay, just whatever you want. We'll continue when you are done, what I want doesn't matter." Even if she did get all the way down and you were off, you should have been getting her butt back on her feet immediately, and not the nice way either.

    I like your way of thinking. I'm sorry, but NO 1200lbs animal is going to roll on me...EVER. It's just one of those things that aren't acceptable, same as biting, kicking, and striking. I don't do those things to my horse, they shouldn't try to do them to me.

    And the idea that you stayed "in shock" while she got down, rolled til she wasn't itchy, and got up just makes me laugh. My horses go down and have a good couple minute roll...you're telling us you were so astounded by her actually making good on her warning to roll (that you yourself told us you were testing her for) that you couldn't react?! PFFFT. And yes, once she's up and shakes the dust off, you're WAY too late to reprimand and your "arresting" became an unjust punishment.

    I find it funny you're asking this horrible site for advise if you dislike it so much...your original question was why did she roll? Because she was itchy, has NO respect for you on her, and apparently knew you wouldn't do anything about it. The fact that you call the HORSE stupid for this action...I'm not even going to touch on that.
         
        03-08-2010, 05:32 PM
      #73
    Foal
    Well J once lay down with me and my response was to jump off while telling him no! Then gave him a tug on the rein told him to get up and made the monkey do some **** work. Its never happened since!
         
        03-09-2010, 01:01 AM
      #74
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PechosGoldenChance    
    Horselove4ever:

    Gypsy: I feel bad for the lady who broke her leg. However, I'm still a young woman who works out everyday, and I also run, I'm pretty 'on-top' of things, and I'm pretty quick to come to my whits. I jump off faster than you can blink your eyes lol. I'm not trying to be a smart ass at all, I swear!

    When I was 18 and in excellent shape, I was training a horse on the trail, working at a very forward trot on a hot day. We hit a sandy patch about 5 miles in. We literally went from trotting to the horse on top of me snapping my knee backwards in about 1 second. He HIT the ground, and my knee.

    I cracked my knee cap, and tore pretty much everything there is to tear in a knee. It was just excruciating pain.

    I was stuck by myself 5 miles in with a crushed knee that I couldn't stand on. I had to somehow get back on the horse-- do you stand on the bad knee, or do you try and hoist yourself up with the bad knee? It was impossible. And then, riding out on intense trails on a horse you don't trust and a constantly swelling knee? I almost passed out.

    As I said, I was in excellent shape, and I had been on those trails alone for miles and miles. These are reasons you never ride without a cell phone, without a friend, and why you never ever allow a horse to roll while you are on its back.
         
        03-09-2010, 01:19 AM
      #75
    Yearling
    You should turn your horse out in a sandier area (in my experiences horses tend to prefer their rolling spots a little dusty) so she can roll when you aren't on her. This would make her less likely to roll under saddle, unless it's a trying-to-get-you-off roll. Anyways, rolling is a dangerous behavior. You may not have gotten hurt, but you could next time. Many serious horse-related injuries are not caused by the fall, but by a horse's weight coming on top of the rider. Catch her before she goes down, when she is starting to slow down and hesitate. Then get loud, get her to leg yield, tap her with a whip, just keep her moving until she isn't going to go down on you.
         
        03-09-2010, 02:04 PM
      #76
    Yearling
    EveningShadows: You are a funny one, I'll tell ya!
         
        03-09-2010, 02:49 PM
      #77
    Weanling
    To me, rolling is unacceptable. They can roll all they want when their turned out, but I demand respect when im working with them.
    Cutter tried rolling once while he had a saddle on. I was holding him while he was tacked up, he layed down, and I took my whip and whacked his a** hard and he stood up and hasnt tried since.

    I love my horse, and he loves me. Im not abusive, so I hope no body gets on me for hitting him. But im not going to lie, when he does something that deserves a good whack, he gets a good whack. And he is one of the most respectful horses I've ever worked with.
         

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