JDI...can you tell if there was any collection in these two videos of him? I've been watching the two videos that the lady made of him trying to see if she would just work him off the vertical or actually get him to round. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrXDA5hnTXo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoV7p6ivRVE
(only about 1 minute of the last video would be of him actually "rounding" his back if he was...the other parts was of my riding him when I had my lesson on him)
I'm thinking that she trained him only to go on the vertical as collection and that most of his "topline" was fat and not actually muscle. If that be the case then maybe he doesn't even know how to push himself from his hind end and round his back.
I will try some stopping, backing and then asking immediately for a trot or canter.
Would it be best to use a crop for this? Or try without it? Usually he's pretty good about picking it up, but he's been moody because of the weather haha (can't say I haven't either...I don't like hot weather hehe).
Thanks JDI your awesome