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post #1 of 32 Old 06-16-2012, 06:18 PM Thread Starter
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I'm not sure how much help you can give me with this, as it is a lesson horse and not my own, but Charlie (the horse) can be really rude on the ground. During my lesson yesterday when I was holding him just before the lesson he kept nudging me with his head, and when he was tied up in the stables (it was raining outside) he kept swinging round and kicking out. I know it was because he didn't like being in the stable because when it stopped raining I could take him out and he was better, but I don't think horses are supposed to be like that? He also tries to kick when I pick out is back feet when I don't let go or if I have to I will pick it up again to try to get him to understand that I am not going to go away. He will have his ears back a lot and look really annoyed at everything often as well. He is always trying to pull back when he is tied to the stable door and bites at the knot to try to undo it. When I lead him out of the stable it always feels like he is in control, luckily he knows that we are only going in a circle to be tied up to the stable door, but once or twice he has wanted to wander off and I feel like I can't do anything.

He was in a bad mood yesterday so maybe that was it, and I don't know how much of that is normal behavior as I don't know may other horses, but I just want to know if there is anything I can do to discipline him. My instructor pushes/pokes his muzzle away firmly, and other people will hit is shoulder when he is being pushy but I don't want to do something like that and be told off because I am not very experienced (as you can probably tell).
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post #2 of 32 Old 06-16-2012, 06:23 PM
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He doesn't have any respect for you. A horse that acts like that does not belong as a lesson horse in my opinion, I would talk to the instructor about it.
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post #3 of 32 Old 06-16-2012, 06:32 PM
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You need someone to give you some lessons on handling horses, as this horse is not being rude, this horse is telling you that you don't know what you are doing, and the horse is in charge.
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post #4 of 32 Old 06-16-2012, 06:33 PM
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I can respect your hesitance to discipline the horse in the same manner the instructor does. Why don't you ask her if it's ok for you to do the same? It would be best if all persons handled him the same way; firmly.

Lesson horses are a special case in that they aren't yours , they deal with all kinds of people day after day and they are often unhappy. (not saying that Charlie is unhappy).

You will just have to not worry too much about his emotional state. He has a job to do and he cannot be indulged his bad moods. If he is kicking out when you do his feet, I would ask for some didrection and help from the instructor. That could be dangerous if you got your face down in path of a foot.

Will your instructor give you some guidance here, or is she just expecting you to muddle through?
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Hi Vergo,

Agree with others, that it sounds like you've been left in a difficult situation with a potentially dangerous horse. As others have said, as this is a lesson horse & likely deals with many beginners such as you that don't know how to get the best from him, he's had lots of practice at telling them... where to go!

I would firstly quit even trying to pick up his back feet as that's dangerous(& irresponsible of whoever's in charge to let you do all that without guidance). I would also not attempt to punish a horse like this, be it poking him in the nose or otherwise, considering he obviously perceives YOU as the 'rude' one who has no manners and sounds like an assertive type who may well just give you a stronger 'correction' for your insolence.

I think it's important that beginners are closely supervised around horses, because there is so much to learn & that can go wrong, even with a well mannered horse. What you need is a good, considerate instructor & if possible, an easier horse to learn with.
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I ride two TB's that are like that, but that's because everyone is scared of them so they never get ridden.

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He doesn't have any respect for you. A horse that acts like that does not belong as a lesson horse in my opinion, I would talk to the instructor about it.
^I see this is as your opinion, so don't take this rudely, PLEASE!
I disagree with your opinion because how else is she going to learn to deal with a horse who has that bad habit? Some of them just REALLY hate having their feet touched.

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I disagree with your opinion because how else is she going to learn to deal with a horse who has that bad habit?
Depends on the stage of learning the OP is at - I'd want them to understand how to deal with an easy horse before 'challenging' them with a horse like that, &/or depends on how much help & supervision they're giving.
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Ask your instructor how to handle it. If she doesn't give you some good suggestions that work then I would think about finding a different instructor. It's their job to instruct! Both while you're riding and while you're working with their horse on the ground. You shouldn't have to go to a forum to find out how to handle a lesson horse. If you do then either you aren't asking enough questions or the instructor is not doing their job.
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post #10 of 32 Old 06-17-2012, 06:19 AM
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Tell your instructor that you need to know the boundaries that they want you to follow when the horse is not behaving.

Bad mood or not, he has to listen and respect the rider.
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