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post #1 of 8 Old 06-01-2010, 09:13 PM Thread Starter
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Running, Rearing, and Head Tossing....Oh My!

I took Rebel out on the trail for the first time today. I did go alone. I swapped him and my stud horse Gringo out from my trainer (I always have one horse boarded) so I could school him more. I thought a trail ride would be a good experience for him.

He's normally a total angel. Head down, supple, responsive....very "Yes ma'am." and "Whatever you say, Mom." ......Well, not so much this time.

So first, I rode him out back on a familiar trail I know really well that is basically just a dirt logging road that circles Toni's entire property and then hooks back on itself for the journey home. I ride it when I want to try out a new horse or when I just want to drop the reins and run for no apparant reason....Eh. We made it about a hundred yards when the problems started. I stopped him so I could adjust my girth (I sensed it was too loose. He's a difficult one to cinch) and when I reached down to pull it tighter he spun around and started trotting for him. I got up straight and turned him in a circle. I made him walk the other way again. This time he planted his but, reared and spun the other way and took off down the road at a full run to get home again. Um, excuse me? I'm still up here, numbskull!

I circled him again and made him walk back. By this time I realized I was running out of time before work and I turned him and made him walk home, but the entire time he was tossing his head and fighting my hands. Not the most encouraging ride of my life....

Is the problem me, or him? Is he just barn sour? He's never had a problem before, even when we rode on the other side of the property from the barn (And that's quite a distance)

Biggest question: Did I do the right thing out there?

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #2 of 8 Old 06-01-2010, 09:48 PM
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To me he sounds a bit barn sour.Without knowing about him being a boob out there I think you handled the situation correctly. Next time, I would go riding when you have nothing else to do and you can focus on him and him not getting his way (going back home to the barn).
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Yeah, next time.

I was sure he would be fine...Oh well, I guess he just needs a lil' tune up.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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Or, make it easier to go on the his butt off at the barn so he WANTS to be out there. Sometimes before you go out, and sometimes after. Keep him guessing. lol
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post #5 of 8 Old 06-02-2010, 02:29 PM
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The trainer most probably has a routine--tie rack, groom, pick out feet, saddle, out to the riding area, work, back to the wash rack, unsaddle, bath, cool down and put up.

New routine now. Couple that with "work" and he is saying no thanks. It takes a while of work every day before you can back off. I personally think that 90% of the issues are solved with daily work. Most horses who can deal with once a week have been ridden daily for a year or so.

Remember they are not a ATV.
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[QUOTE=SorrelHorse;649607]Is the problem me, or him?

The short answer is, "It's never, ever the horse's fault."
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I agree with working him at the barn most likely he is being a bit barn sour. I am much a fan of Clinton Anderson when it comes to these types of problems his answers are simple yet constructive. When he circles back toward the barn keep him going in circles and figure 8s and work on controlled bending. Then give him a chance to rest by walking away from the barn if he turns back around repeat the circles and figure 8s. Eventually, hopefully, he will realize it's much easier to just walk on the trail than try to get back to the barn.
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5cuetrain - No routine. I take care of him myself, every morning and evening sinc I live across the way from my trainer. I know the consequences of anticipation, so I do it at a little bit of a differant time (Not too big a differance, just enough to count) and never in the same order. I learned about that the hard way. And ATV? Haha, trust me, no problem with that confusion! ATV's are a lot easier to ride lol I am deinately gonna make him work from now on though.

Northern - I agree that 95% of the time it is rider error, but there are also instances when the horse is at fault. I find a lot of people underestimate the horse's mind. I find them knowing exactly what they did wrong and doing it anyway. Some are so intelligent it's unbelievable. And on top of that, communication is a big thing. I'm not so great at it, but I know the dynamics of what to do and am improving every day. Horses are a lot like people. They have quirks, too

Although, I am sure it's me this time around. Just need to work more.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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