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    01-29-2010, 09:58 AM
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Ryan Gingerich... Anyone heard about him?

I was doing some search on horse health and this one come out. Anyone is familiar with the guy/training techniques? Horse Problems, Behavior Zone Isolate the Problem
     
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    01-29-2010, 10:17 AM
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Ryan Gingerich... "The Behaviorist." This is the guy I watch when I really want to laugh. He has a show on RFD, and I've never seen that difficult of a horse on it. One horse I thought looked worse behaved after Ryan's training than in the "Consultation." Shoot, one QH mare that the owner claimed to be unable to control I probably would have bought had she been for sale and reasonably priced! (Looked for all the world like a quiet, comfy, sane, responsive horse to me from the get-go... ) There was one trailer loading demo where Mr. Gingerich dramatized the heck out of a horse who had learned to pull away and canter around loose rather than load. Granted, not a safe situation, but Ryan talked for about a third of the show about the danger to him, and how he needed an assistant to help him deal with this particularly dangerous horse. Yeah... the horse started pulling, drug Mr. Gingerich halfway around the ring, and the brave, essential assistant dove for cover behind the trailer. Ryan commended him at the end for all of his help (The horse only had his front feet in the trailer, and was not happy about it).

IMHO, His methods may help some horses, but for myself, with only the experience of watching his glorified infomercial, he's pretty dramatic, and all I've ever seen of him working a horse is prodding it on the shoulder with a dressage whip from the ground, wanting the horse to step forward with the foot attached to the shoulder he was tapping. Not sure how that "behaviorally reforms" horses, but whatever floats his boat. Like I say, I watch it and laugh, occasionally with popcorn. My non-horsey mom watches and asks me why on earth he's doing the stuff he's doing, and I can only reply "No idea..." Maybe he makes more sense in real life?
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    01-29-2010, 10:18 AM
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I think he is okay.. he is funny though.
     
    01-29-2010, 11:00 AM
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That sounds really hilarious. I'm always amazed when some trainers claim they have a cure for all behavioral problems, but then you buy the dvd and it's just biggest waste of money ever. Not like I was going to buy anything from this guy, but if you read his testimonials they sound like you can do everything in just one wave of hand, but not too much info provided on how. Lol!

I was burned once by "trailer loading" - I WISH this trainer would be close so I could invite him in person and see how his "method" would work on my horse (and request my money back for that dvd).
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    01-29-2010, 04:44 PM
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He's kind of a joke IMO. I've watched him many times and....yea....nothing impressive.
     
    01-29-2010, 09:28 PM
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He acts like a wuss and has an "assistant" ride most of the horses...
Although he is nice to look at.
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    01-29-2010, 09:38 PM
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I am not very fam. With his training as I don't get rfdtv but a couple of years ago he had a booth at the PA horse expo and they were selling detangler and bath products for horses. It smelled so good and all the ingreds. Were all natural which I liked.
I couldnt find it anywhere after that so I emailed his company and asked about it , the email I got back said they disconitued it because he was making a new/different line. BUT , they offered to send me 2 bottles for Free! When I got the package in the mail not only did they send me 2 bottles of the detangler but shine enhancer and cond. Too : ) I use the detangler on the horses and also use it on my hair and my daughters hair.
I don't know really about him but his business office is very nice, can't beat free horse products.
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    01-30-2010, 02:24 AM
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He is a complete joke. He tries to make things more complicated than they need to be and ends up confusing both the horse and the riders.
"When I pick up the inside rein, the horse needs to shorten his stride with that leg"
That's how he supposedly teaches his horse to turn.

"When I cue with my outside leg at position 2....no 3, he needs to lengthen the stride on that side."
I guess that is his version of a leg yield.

He teaches people to see-saw their horse to get them to stop under the guise of "shortening the strides until there is no forward motion", but you have to use each rein individually to shorten the stride on the corresponding side, resulting in see-sawing.

He specifies 3 separate positions on the horse's side that are a cue for 3 separate things. I can understand putting cues like that on a high level dressage horse, or a champion reining horse, or heck, even a good finished ranch horse. But the people that he is trying to help are backyard riders/owners who simply don't understand the concepts that he is failing miserably at getting across. I do know the concepts and most of the time, he confuses the crap out of me. He corrects himself all the time about which of the 3 positions to use cause he accidently said position 1 instead of position 2. For goodness sakes, if you can't keep your own program straight when you are talking about it, how can he possibly expect these people to keep it straight on the horse when their stress level is already at 11?

IMHO, that guy is a danger to people and horses everywhere.
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    01-30-2010, 11:04 AM
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"When I pick up the inside rein, the horse needs to shorten his stride with that leg"
That's how he supposedly teaches his horse to turn.

"When I cue with my outside leg at position 2....no 3, he needs to lengthen the stride on that side."
I guess that is his version of a leg yield.
Isn't it what's called "scientific approach"?
     
    01-30-2010, 11:30 AM
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Yea, his methods confuse me....I was like, "Now, hang on, the horse should do what when you do this or that with your rein and leg? HUH??" Totally confused the heck outta me. I agree, he makes things harder than it should be, plus I've seen him blow horses up because of his "method." Sheesh, anyone can get a show on TV nowadays.
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