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post #111 of 218 Old 06-30-2012, 06:47 AM
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LOL, I'm having a hard time finding what is so sad about that.
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post #112 of 218 Old 06-30-2012, 07:48 AM
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Question You see 2 ads:

"Nice horse for sale, Reg QH Mare 15.2 hands, 4 or 5 years old, not broke or started. Not Shown. Clips, loads, bathes. UTD on shots, coggins, and farrier. Asking $5000"

"Nice horse for sale, Reg QH Mare 15.2 hands, 3 years old, Shown in QH shows at 2. Does very well in WP and can hold her own in HUS classes. 90 days professional training, still with trainer, you can also speak to them. Clips, loads, bathes. UTD on shots, coggins, and farrier. Asking $5000"

Both are bred well. Both have decent conformation. Even say both will pass a PPE. A lot of you are saying you would pick the 4 or 5 year old over the 3 with training and show experience FOR THE SAME PRICE?

Just curious....
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post #113 of 218 Old 06-30-2012, 11:22 AM
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Yeah, I agree. Those horses are NOT walking, trotting OR loping. They look like they are afraid to take a step for fear of getting their face ripped off for actually MOVING!! Look at that poor grey, taking one tiny step at a time...shameful. And the lope...looks more like a bunny rabbit hopping along.

I HATE what they have done to WP horses lately.
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Futurities and young horse classes sometimes feel like watching "Toddlers and Tiaras"...
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post #115 of 218 Old 06-30-2012, 04:32 PM
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Yeah, I agree. Those horses are NOT walking, trotting OR loping. They look like they are afraid to take a step for fear of getting their face ripped off for actually MOVING!! Look at that poor grey, taking one tiny step at a time...shameful. And the lope...looks more like a bunny rabbit hopping along.

I HATE what they have done to WP horses lately.

Guess you don't know WP horses much. They aren't afraid to move, they are bred to want to go slow. NONE of these horses looked intimidated in the face, they ALL look laid back and relax. That is what a good WP horse is! Ugh....I hate it when people look at something and think they have it figured out. I'd hate to have you look at my horse or watch a vid, because you would ASSUME I ripped his face off constantly and on a daily basis and you couldn't be farther from the truth. LOOK....these horses are bred with slow in the head and slow in the conformation. I guess, if their heads were up, backs hollow and they were running...it would be ok with you.
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post #116 of 218 Old 06-30-2012, 05:41 PM
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Definitely way late to this thread and I have not read anything but the first page so bear with me.

Anywho I will start colts are two. I mean sure if it's a little before that and I start getting them used to the saddle my 110lb self laying (not riding, laying) on them isn't going to hurt them. At two years old they start work, knowing what legs are, flexing and bending, etc. There is SO MUCH you can di with a two year old without even getting out of a slow trot. I don't work two year olds hard. I generally do all the leg work, walk/trot and a little brief canters. That way they are getting experience and geting in shape too. Then we just progress as the horse does at the colts pace.

Now I would not start an Arab, warmblood, or anything along those lines that young with work, but my paints and QHs are a totally differant breed. They are sound enough to learn at that age. I don't expect them to lope for hours or slide 30 feet, nor do I expect them to run the barrel pattern or jump... Just know how to move off my leg, frame up when I ask, and have a solid foundation. That does not take as big a toll as people think. The majority of the time we are at a walk learning these things.
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post #117 of 218 Old 06-30-2012, 10:23 PM
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I absolutely agree. That horse looks in pain, and moves in pain. What that breed has become, so sad.
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Yeah, I agree. Those horses are NOT walking, trotting OR loping. They look like they are afraid to take a step for fear of getting their face ripped off for actually MOVING!! Look at that poor grey, taking one tiny step at a time...shameful. And the lope...looks more like a bunny rabbit hopping along.

I HATE what they have done to WP horses lately.
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I am having an even harder what what is not. The horse is moving in pain, and only 2 years old, showing in WORLDS???? That horse must have been started VERY young to get to the level that they want them to be at, which is basically not letting them move naturally, just restricting their movement and forcing a horribly low headset. Those aren't even a true trot or canter, barely a walk, I couldn't even tell when he was walking VS trotting.
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You are just pushing "QH ways" onto other people, those aren't even true speeds of the gaits! I only say that because that is not natural.
ALL and I mean ALL QH/Paint riders I have seen have ripped on their face to get them that low. A low headset is good, not dragging on the ground. No horse naturally has that low of a headset. That horse is NOT relaxed. Just because he has a low headset and is moving slowly doesn't mean he is collected/relaxed.
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Guess you don't know WP horses much. They aren't afraid to move, they are bred to want to go slow. NONE of these horses looked intimidated in the face, they ALL look laid back and relax. That is what a good WP horse is! Ugh....I hate it when people look at something and think they have it figured out. I'd hate to have you look at my horse or watch a vid, because you would ASSUME I ripped his face off constantly and on a daily basis and you couldn't be farther from the truth. LOOK....these horses are bred with slow in the head and slow in the conformation. I guess, if their heads were up, backs hollow and they were running...it would be ok with you.


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Totally with you there
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