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post #1 of 9 Old 10-25-2010, 04:25 PM Thread Starter
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Saddle Seat?

This has bothered me for a while xD

How do you train a horse Saddle Seat? How do you get them to lift like that (humanely, of course.) and hold their heads like that?

Thanks!

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This has bothered me for a while xD

How do you train a horse Saddle Seat? How do you get them to lift like that (humanely, of course.) and hold their heads like that?

Thanks!
I think it depends on the breed. I asked my best friend who shows saddle seat if my daughter's qh could show saddle seat. She said no... walkers, arabs, saddlebreds and such.
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If you've ever watched a Saddle Seat class you'll notice that the breeds in the class have naturally high head and tail carriage, and have a high, floaty trot.

A horse has to have the talent for that extended floating trot, and display it as a youngster. Then the trainer merely exaggerates what the horse has already shown to be natural for them.

You can't take a horse with a naturally low carried head and slow gait and make them into a saddle seat horse. It's physically impossible for them.
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If you've ever watched a Saddle Seat class you'll notice that the breeds in the class have naturally high head and tail carriage, and have a high, floaty trot.

A horse has to have the talent for that extended floating trot, and display it as a youngster. Then the trainer merely exaggerates what the horse has already shown to be natural for them.

You can't take a horse with a naturally low carried head and slow gait and make them into a saddle seat horse. It's physically impossible for them.
Which is why my friend said no to Sheldon, the barrel racing bred WP HUS horse :)
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And it's exactly why a Saddlebred will never make a good Western Pleasure horse. For virtually any discipline, the breed that will excell is the breed that has been delibrately bred to have conformation that makes it easiest to perform that discipline.

Most of the breed associated disciplines also have questionable methods - for example, every single Saddleseat horse will have been trained with chains and weights to pick their legs up. Not everyone sores horses, but everyone uses the "bracelets" to make them pick their feet up, also bungee cords tying the front legs together. I don't personally know what I make of it - isn't natural movement enough? But Western Pleasure has it's own questionable practices for making horses go so slow, so you'll find it everywhere and it's up to you to judge for yourself.

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Yeah, I'm talking about a Morgan, Saddlebred, or Arabian.

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If you've ever watched a Saddle Seat class you'll notice that the breeds in the class have naturally high head and tail carriage, and have a high, floaty trot.

A horse has to have the talent for that extended floating trot, and display it as a youngster. Then the trainer merely exaggerates what the horse has already shown to be natural for them.

You can't take a horse with a naturally low carried head and slow gait and make them into a saddle seat horse. It's physically impossible for them.
How does the trainer teach the horse to "exaggerate" it?

Riders aren't 16 and pregnant. Riders are 16 and arthritic.
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As I mentioned, by using chains, weights and bungees. Also use of draw reins and martingales for headset.

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Weighted boots and surgical tubing for tying the front legs together:
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And it's exactly why a Saddlebred will never make a good Western Pleasure horse.
Rofl... my first show horse was a Saddlebred and my first discipline was Western Pleasure. Yeah, if I ever get a hold of THOSE videos, I'll be sure to post them here. IT WAS A DISASTER! :P I was young... what can I say.

BUT - Some Saddlebreds do western pleasure. It's just not traditional WP.
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Oh for sure, and they make fantastic pleasure horses. I was just speaking in general terms of open competition - I know some people who've taken their high stepping QH's into open Saddleseat competition!

Any breed can more or less compete in any discipline when it's kept within the breed - once you reach open competition it's a different story!

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