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        12-05-2013, 04:37 PM
      #41
    Weanling
    "oh lawd" I was going to pass this post up, but just wanted to be sure that you are going to have someone watching her if you tie her up and leave her while doing stuff with the other horse to help with separation anxiety. Just don't want you to come back to a horse who has freaked out and gotten herself in trouble or dead.
    That's all, I'm running away from this one fast...
         
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        12-05-2013, 04:44 PM
      #42
    Green Broke
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    And you got good answers and comments from a few of the ones who took the time to post. Some of them pointed out this horse is too young, too inexperienced and not ready for what you are asking it to do.

    You pooh poohed every single decent thought that was posted.

    As for "trainer" saying it is "unpredictable bucking"....doesn't say much for them either.

    And for your enlightenment? Even a "fully broke one" will, in the hands of handlers that know nothing, revert to untrained, and very quickly too.

    For whatever reason you refuse to listen to anyone telling you this horse isn't ready for what you are doing.
    And would imagine if you put up some videos of yourself, her and the horses, many things could be pinpointed as to what you are doing wrong.

    Not our fault. It is yours.
         
        12-05-2013, 04:55 PM
      #43
    Foal
    Just for everyones information, we are experienced enough to handle our horses, but in our position to deal with the bucking, we are not experienced enough for that. So in that being said we are going to look for a different horse. That is the safest thing to do, for the horse, girlfriend, and myself. The horse is beautiful, well taken care of, and is very sociable. But the bucking can't happen. When undersaddle she is very unpredictable. That's what all this comes down too.. Its not about riding her or making her work hard, because we don't make her doo much, a 20 minute walk shouldnt hurt a horse.. And I have also took in your knowledge and comments, im going to do the right thing.. Thank you
         
        12-05-2013, 04:55 PM
      #44
    Teen Forum Moderator
    I don't think it was necessary to bash OP, he did come here for help after all, and until recently was receiving it well. There is no need for name calling on either end.

    OP- I do think that it is best to give your girlfriend's filly some time to be a baby and just do some light work for a year or so. Perhaps you could ground drive her on the trails to get her used to unexpected circumstances, or once you feel more comfortable, you could pony the filly off of your mare. Tying your mare is a perfectly acceptable way to teach her patience, but as noted- keeping an eye on her is necessary. Horses, as you are learning, can be a bit unpredictable at times and you wouldn't want her to get hurt.

    You are in no way stupid, just possibly not ready to take on the task of training a two year old. Most people aren't...I've been working with horses for 6+ years and I have discovered first hand that I am not ready either. However, with the help of a reputable trainer, I really think you guys can get back on the right track and have a nice little trail horse in a year or so. It takes patience though, because she is a baby and she is going to mess up and get overwhelmed easily. The worst thing to do in situations like that is get upset though, it takes a steady hand and seat and a lot of time to make a nice riding horse!

    Other than that I think that you've gotten about all you're going to from this thread. I really do hope that things go well for you and your horses, and that you can find a great trainer to help you along.
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        12-05-2013, 05:03 PM
      #45
    Trained
    It takes the right sort of person to start a youngster, and that means knowing your own strengths and limitations, you don't, so yes, sell the poor baby and but something more suitable for the novice rider,
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        12-05-2013, 06:12 PM
      #46
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    WOW... I just walked in and my Computer was smoking....

    Thread is cleaned and is re-opening.

    We can all agree to disagree without resorting to tantrums and such foul language..... such outlandish behavior will not be tolerated.


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        12-05-2013, 07:36 PM
      #47
    Super Moderator
    I feel the need to post a comment in this thread.

    It is fairly common to start a quarter horse at two years old and it is also fairly common for those horses to be trail ridden at that age. While many riders do not agree with this practice, it is not unheard of. While I agree the OP isn't experienced enough for this situation, I want to point out that not only did the OP admit to that fact, but he came her asking for advice.

    The responses he received were what drove him into responding in the manner that he did. While the cursing and name calling was uncalled for, so were such statements as "I pity your horse" and "What the hell are you thinking."

    One comment that was repeated a few times regarding that 10 year old horse not being broke because it won't ride out alone kind of bothered me. I have a 29 year old horse that has done just about every thing imaginable. To this day it is a huge fight to get him to ride out alone. This is a horse that has jumped 4 foot courses, crossed creeks, ridden trails, roads, parades, run barrels, competed in dressage, run cross country courses and even been under a train track when the train came by. He's broke, but he will refuse to ride out on his own until the sun go's down. Granted mama can make him go, but it's not pretty......
         
        12-05-2013, 07:43 PM
      #48
    Trained
    Get your g/f to take her and her horse back to the trainer's for a few more months so she doesn't get bucked as frequently. More experience, more time and more training is what is needed, no quick fix, sorry.
         
        12-05-2013, 07:54 PM
      #49
    Yearling
    I think getting another horse could be a solution that would turn out better for everyone. But 'to get a better horse' isn't a good reason. She's not a bad horse, she's not crazy. It's not her fault she bucks. Even well broke horses will buck in one situation or another.

    And please don't expect someone to trade their well broke, nice, experienced horse to trade you straight across for a young, unbroke, grade filly. You'll have to spend some cash.

    And did this 'trainer' even physically see Reba before saying she's a problem bucker?? I'm feeling frustrated that you're expecting SO MUCH from a horse so young. She's going to have tantrums. Period. She's a baby! She hasn't been exposed to nearly enough.
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        12-05-2013, 07:59 PM
      #50
    Yearling
    And I'd like to add, when you buy your next well-broke horse ask the owner how long it took from the time it was started to get to the point of being broke.
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