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    12-06-2013, 09:45 AM
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I was going to suggest you exchange this nice 2 year old for an older, more reliable horse. I tell you.. if you can find an older ex lesson horse.. even something 16 to 20 years old.. in good physical shape, go for it.

Those old campaigners can teach you so very very much. To this day I love a few miles on an older horse that has seen it all and knows the drill because of how much I learn when I ride such an animal (like I hope the horse I have been training will be as nice as this one!).

Good luck with what you decide. Please don't get hurt while you are figuring this out.
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    12-06-2013, 10:39 AM
She is way too young to be riding yet. Do the groundwork for now and it will go a long way to build her confidence and trust.
    12-06-2013, 04:31 PM
Originally Posted by dustinwhite87    
We are just going to trade the horse and get a better one, one that we can handle. I talked to a different trainer today, and it sounds like our horse can't be cured of the bucking, it sounds like its unpredictable bucking. So we are getting a fully broke one
Well I am very relieved to hear that you have come to your senses and have decided to rehome this horse to someone who is experienced enough to deal with her.

There are only a very, very small percentage of horses who are truly "unpredictable". There is almost always a sign of the behavior they are about to do, whether it is a swish of the tail, or a movement of the ear, or a glare in the eye, etc. If you don't know what to look for and don't know what those signs are, you will not see them and you will think the horse is completely unpredictable.... when really, the rider just didn't see the signs.

If I were you, I would find a different trainer. Any trainer that tells you a horse is unpredictable like that, doesn't know what to look for and possibly shouldn't be training horses. Or possible that you didn't explain the situation correctly to the different trainer (sounds as if you just spoke over the phones?) because you don't know what the signs are to relay the message to the trainer.

Originally Posted by dustinwhite87    
Its not about riding her or making her work hard, because we don't make her doo much, a 20 minute walk shouldnt hurt a horse.
That's not really the point we were all trying to make.

A 20 minutes walk CAN hurt the horse, if you do not know what you are doing.

Heck, even 5 minutes can be very frustrating to the horse if the rider is not clear on their cues and/or is not cueing effectively. I don't know what level of riding your GF is at nor how she rode the horse, but something wasn't right and that made your horse lash out by bucking. Possible that she was trying to ride her as if she was a finished horse, which would be very, very confusing and frustrating to a filly who is trying to learn.

Hard hard you are working her has nothing to do with it. How long you ride her has nothing to do with it. But HOW you ride her has everything to do with it.

For example: Let's say you are driving 20 minutes from your house to a restaurant. But every time you speed up, the person in the back seat shouts at you to slow down. When you slow down, they shout at you to speed up. When you change lanes, they tell you not to use your blinker. When you change lanes again and don't use your blinker, then they tell you that you should have used your blinker. Etc and so on. Do you think you would be able to tolerate driving for 20 minutes with that sort of backseat driving? NO! You'd be so frustrated and confused simply 5 minutes into it. You'd probably blow up at that backseat driving and tell them to shut up and just let you drive. This is what your horse is experiencing. Make sense?

And remember: Just because you buy a "fully broke" horse, doesn't mean the horse will stay fully broke when put into the hands of an inexperienced rider. Check out Cherie's thread to read more about that.
Every rider IS a trainer -- every time you interact with a horse
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