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        02-12-2009, 09:25 AM
    Originally Posted by Rodridge Livery Yard    
    i would say that is pretty good advice.
    That is good advise but my concern in this case is that you have a new owner and a very insecure mom. It sounds like they are over their heads with this horse - particularly if it is a consideration on their part to put it down.

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        02-12-2009, 11:49 AM
    Actually lunging a horse, which tries to jump on top of you, is pretty miserable. My qh tried to approach and knock me down when I started to lunge her at first. Only letting her run into stick stopped this behavior (it was really hard for me to be very firm, but it was necessary). This horse needs a firm knowledgeable hand and ground work for while before it'll be safe enough for anything else with green person.
        02-12-2009, 03:26 PM
    You Should Get Some Calming Powder That Normally Works For High Terpermented
    Horses But If Doesn't Work Just Take Her To A Trainer And They Will Work With Her Till she's Calm And Very Respectful And Very Broke Too

        02-12-2009, 05:49 PM
    1000 lbs of pony is a LOT of pony! I agree that there are ways to deal with this, but I also agree that you and your mum might not be ready to do it yourselves. Do you have your pony at a barn? Is there someone who could work with her a bit and maybe determine better just how "bad" this problem is? Maybe it's not as bad as all that, but you and your mum have allowed the behavior due to your lack of confidence.

    If you generally have a good relationship with the pony -- grooming, cleaning, visiting, etc. and actually like her personality, not just her looks, I would say it's worth asking someone else to come out and give your more feedback. If however, you are just hooked on her for looks, it's probably not a wise choice to continue on. There is another, more suitable pony looking over a fence somewhere for a new home.
        02-12-2009, 06:08 PM
    If you can't get a trainer,maybe see if there is someone who is looking for some riding time on "problem" horses.
    They are generally cheaper and help get things worked out.
        02-14-2009, 02:10 PM
    Thanks for your replies everyone! Your all a great help I understand that she needs proffessional schooling and i've started looking round at a few trainers but no look yet i'll keep you posted

    And thanks once again

    Originally Posted by iridehorses    
    That is good advise but my concern in this case is that you have a new owner and a very insecure mom. It sounds like they are over their heads with this horse - particularly if it is a consideration on their part to put it down.
    Sorry if you misunderstood what I said but she is not my only pony I have 3 others that I look after aswell, and i've had her for over a year now. I've also been riding for quite a while.

    My first pony I had I schooled quite alot and with work he improved and he gave me alot of my confidence.

    When we had her she was strong headed but I managed her and she gradually improved but I injured my leg a while back and had to stop riding her.i lunged her and got her listening to vocal command which she did brillantly.

    All of a sudden lately though she started rearing up and running round me whilst leading her. I can hold on to her well enough but my mum is really worried that I will loosen the rope and the pony will spin round and kick me (this is how she kicked my mum). This has made my mum really worried that she might put me in hospital, my mum said she'd have her put down if she did anything to me.

    Also my mum has had alot of experience with horses but she isn't strong enough to hold the mare and she doesn't trust the mare because the pony is disrespectful.

    That's hopefully more in detail. Sorry for the confusion I was sketchy in my detail before.

    And once again thank you for you replies I think a trainer is the way ahead.

    Oh and one more thing is that selling her is difficult as alot of horses i've seen that are like her fall into the wrong hands and get cruelly treated.
        02-14-2009, 03:01 PM
    That does but a different light on it! In that case, a trainer is definitely in order before someone get hurt. Considering that this is rather new, I wonder what has changed in your horse's environment, feed, or handling.
        02-14-2009, 05:16 PM
    Sorry I didn't explain everything.

    The ponies recently had a change of field, the gate was left open into their original field on their first day in, this was a bad idea.
    My gelding after being in the new field with the mare and the other filly decided to go back through the gate. When he had left them they panicked alittle.
    The filly can jump very well she was stood about three canter strides off the fence she cover this ground and jumped the fence, naturally being the last left in the field the mare followed the filly over the fence! I never believed the mare could jump that high! I don't think she thought she could either as she's never jumped that high before. Since then she's been jumping up and down alot like she's realised she can do it.

    When she started rearing we realised we needed help she's never reared before. Do you thing that could have caused it? The bad weather could have also caused it.

    She was never properly broken I don't think with her previous owner (a lack of ground work I believe).

    I believe we've found someone who can help though someone who can work with the mare first and then work with me and the mare in private tuition does that sound ok?

    Thanks for the advise!
        02-14-2009, 05:51 PM
    That's great that you have found someone! It will be well worth the time and money spent! Good luck!
        02-14-2009, 10:44 PM
    Any decent trainer can have the horse respecting them and back into shape BUT the owner or who ever handles the horse has to be able to follow suit or they will be right back in the same situation. My friends mother bought her a 3 year old Morgan mare years ago. Beautiful mare, but on the hot side AND green AND alpha (you may cringe now) WAY too much horse for my friend. She would try to lunge this mare and the mare would pin her ears,charge her and try to stomp on the lunge whip (which she was never touched with make no mistake) My friend would ask me for help and I would lunge the mare for her just fine (after getting after her for the first five minutes) and then my friend would try to take over and of course have the same problems, she was just totally afraid of the horse and it was not a good match from the start and never would have been. I'm not saying that you are like my friend but if you have a trainer out have them assess you and your horse, work with both of you. If it's just a matter of inexperience, with a trainer you can probably work out of it.

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