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post #21 of 27 Old 01-03-2013, 11:33 AM
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Agree wholeheartedly with Muppet here, gentle but consistent, with a plan, and lots and lots of groundwork....after the holidays on pasture.
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post #22 of 27 Old 01-03-2013, 11:41 AM Thread Starter
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I've been considering the Clinton Anderson stuff and trying it. I'm willing to try anything. I just want him to be the loving, sweet horse he is, not the monster he turns into.

I've fallen off of him twice while riding. Both times, my fault. But when I fall, he stops everything he's doing and comes to me and just waits. If I get up and walk away, he will follow behind me and keep nudging me.

My boyfriend rolled off of him once as well, same thing. It seems he really isn't out to hurt you, he is concerned.

Last night after he hit his head, I broke down and cried. My boyfriend was holding him after we looking him over and decided he was okay. He came to me and put his head into my chest and wouldn't move. If I pushed him away, he came back.

It's moments like these, that make me not want to give up on him.

I know he has a good heart, I just don't know how to help him.

I really cannot wait until this summer to try all of your ideas.
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post #23 of 27 Old 01-03-2013, 11:54 AM
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He does sound really sweet

Im not too familiar with CA, but a lot of people here are. Doesn't hurt to ask in the NH part of this forum.

Get him on the magnesium supplement now, it takes a little until his "storage" is full, and see if this makes a difference already
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post #24 of 27 Old 01-03-2013, 12:21 PM
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My father has a horse that sounds somewhat similar. But the horse isn't high-strung at all - in fact, I think if he'd been handled properly from a young age, he'd probably be a great kid's horse. He's very good under saddle.

My dad got him from a horse dealer, so we don't know who owned him previously. My dad thinks he was abused, and he's not someone who always jumps to that conclusion. The horse also a pain with the farrier, and if he's ever in a situation he doesn't like on the ground, he'll fight you (I personally think he may have been allowed to get away with a lot at some point as well).

This guy isn't as severe as your horse, but that's probably partly due to temperament. He is a naturally laid back horse, I think. Anyway, I would say try not to feel sorry for the horse and be firm, but fair. This has been my dad's approach and the horse has improved quite a bit. And when you're doing something he doesn't like, be quick as possible.

For example, with the dewormer, I have the same issue with this horse. I always get someone to hold him and tell them not to stand in front of him because he has tried to strike us. I squirt that dewormer in his mouth super quickly, and it's done before he has time to freak. Then I give him a bit of oats and he forgets all about it.

The applesauce is probably a good idea, too. I've done that with younger horses.

Buck Brannaman might be a good person to check out, too.
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post #25 of 27 Old 01-03-2013, 01:01 PM
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I have a horse that has similar issues , I've had her 2.5 yrs also and a lot of her blowouts were initiated by feeling trapped. I always use a blocker tie and long rope around the barn and trailer with her as I still don't know when she might panic, although it happens less and less. That way if she sets back, she is still tied but she doesn't feel trapped. After a blowout, i make her work by lunging for respect, and I stay as calm as I can be. I now try to put her in situations where she will react so we can get this worked out. She also was very reactive to the wash rack. We just started where she would tolerate being hosed on the foot only, next to the rack, without reaction. She likes a wash now.

I also recommend CA. All the above is from CA. In particular there is a segment he did on desensitizing the horse on tight spaces. He ties the horse to a tall solid wall with a blocker tie, then uses another long rope connected at the same spot to lay against the horses side and "squeeze" the horse between the rope and wall. He starts with very little pressure and builds to holding the horse tight for long intervals.

The wormer thing just got better with handling. I used wormer pellets while I worked on desensitizing her mouth. Whenever I know something will be a challenge and possibly set her off, I do it outside untied so she can move away without either of us being trapped.

CA was helpful for us. The groundwork taught her to respect my space even in a panic. Consistent work at least 3 times per week also was good. You can rent CA videos cheap at Giddyupflix. I don't have as much experience as many others here. Cherie is one I would really listen to, if she offers any advice.
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post #26 of 27 Old 01-03-2013, 01:41 PM
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I vote for Buck Brannaman too.
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post #27 of 27 Old 01-05-2013, 05:30 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks so much everyone! I'll give it a try!
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