so I have recently (five months ago) got a 8yo QH mare from a man that used to beat her. She used to hate ppl now she is the first one at the gate, she used to buck and kick now she docile as can be.she was MORTIFIED to trailer now she jumps in without hesitation
First of all...Awesome Job!!!
but when I lunge her she keeps her head turned away from me, and when I tell her whoa she puts her but to me instead of squaring up!
When she turns her head away, give the lead some light tugs, that's just closing your fingers on the lead, taking out the slack and release, repeat...until she tips her nose forward or toward you.
Don't tug if she's keeping her head forward or tipping her nose toward you.
Don't keep pressure on the lead, this gives her something to pull against.
If she is really pulling against you, though....forget about the tugs and just take out the slack in the line and tell her hip to move away (back feet cross and the hip moves away)....when the hip moves away, the head comes toward you.....when that happens, then let her stand for a moment, and send her out again. Repeat til she's not pulling on you anymore. This is hip control. It's what you're missing.
When you tell her "whoa" don't give her the chance to turn her butt to you....instead....say "whoa" AND take the slack out of the line and look at her hip....you're putting pressure on the hip to move away from you and when she does this and ends up stopped and facing you, this is where you put the release.
Repeat this way of telling her "whoa" with this hip away cue....until she does it on her own (when you say whoa, she does it)
i have tried join up but she wont even hint that she is giving into it. I tried for an hour, no ear lock, no licking or chewing, no head turned in. WHAT DO I DO!
Join up really isn't about waiting for the horse to decide when she wants to come and walk with you. It's about teaching her steps...cues....to follow....to know what you want, where she's "supposed" to be = join up (I'd rather call it leading without contact, cause that's all it is)
You don't have real control of the HIP and this is the key to all of that stuff.
Send her out on a lead only a half circle and stop her ("whoa" and HIP away: back feet cross, and the hip moves away and she is stopped and facing you).....change directions....repeat...
The more hips away you do, the faster and easier she'll get the idea:
She's to face you and her butt is to stay out of your face = this will lead to the "join up"