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She's pushing her mare too fast! WWYD?

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        05-30-2009, 07:12 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    If she's not going to listen to the clinic guy who lowered the jumps I don't think she's going to listen to anyone. She's gotta learn the hard way. Sadly.
         
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        05-30-2009, 07:18 PM
      #12
    Trained
    I didnt see that post Solon. I think we had responded at the same time.

    I agree, only way for her to learn is the hard way.
         
        05-30-2009, 07:42 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Shes going to learn the hard way. She will probably get hurt seriously. The horse might also. I hate people like that. I'd love to talk to her.
         
        05-30-2009, 07:56 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Show her this thread!!!!!
         
        05-31-2009, 01:12 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Thanks for the advice...

    Bump?
         
        05-31-2009, 11:21 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    It really looks like someones going to get hurt before she's going to realize her plain ignorance.

    I would probably flat out, harshly, point out that she is pushing that poor horse to far to fast and is going to wreck her. That mare is either going to end up completely mind ruined or with broken bones.

    Compare it to school. Ask her how she would like it if her parents forcefully shoved her through her current grade and straight into college, expecting her to know everything already.
         
        05-31-2009, 11:31 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    Eventerdrew, she will not listen to you as she thinks you are just trying to bring her down as you said she thinks you are jealous. The trainer is an idiot (sorry) if they refuse to mention it. I agree find another person who she respects and have them mention it. If this is impossible than I would think the only thing left to do is write an anonymous letter to her parents and in the kindest way possible explaint he dangers of pushing a horse too hard too fast and cite examples of horses/riders getting hurt. Maybe quote some articles and use them for references about the natural progression of a timid horse through the different levels.

    Might sound crazy but try emailing her this thread or suggest she ask for a critique from this forum, etc. there is little else you can do but at least you would have tried. :)
         
        06-02-2009, 08:01 AM
      #18
    Started
    Man the first thing I think about is my horse. I recently started jumping him over the summer but due to his age and how he is built I refuse to raise it over 2.5ft. My friend said lets go jump some barrels with him and she wanted me to take him over 3.5ft to 4ft I was like no way and she got mad at me and I wont let her on my horse now because I let her jump on him and she(without telling me) started heading towards a down barrel and I yelled at her to stop and she ignored me. My horse's eyes were rolling. Thank god he veered to the side and refused or he could have been hurt. But she was so mad and called him a dumb@$$ for refusing she wouldn't listen to me. But you should always pay attention to and think about the horse first. What are it's limitations, is it scared, can it do that, will it do that without being scared or giving problems. They are just like people they are scared of stuff and have a mind of their own. You should really tell someone. I would talk to the trainer again first. If he is a no go tell her parents and explain everything(in non-horse people terms)tell them it is dangerous and what not. If she wont listen to you maybe she will listen to them. But basically what everyone else is saying tell someone before she or her horse gets hurt. Because if that horse is as scared as you are saying it wont be long before it does something dangerous and your friend will get hurt.
         
        06-02-2009, 08:29 AM
      #19
    Trained
    I guess I would talk to the trainer and her parents too.... but then I would sit her down and have a serious talk with her. She probably won't listen and she may think you're jealous, but maybe she will actually listen to you. Or at least think twice about what she is doing. Of course you have to find some way to do it without complete offending her or making her feel stupid... which sounds like it'll be hard with this girl. But I guess I don't think you have much to lose here. People who treat animals like this usually aren't the kind of people that I would want as a good friend anyways. JMO though and I don't really know anything about eventing (cept for it looks fun & I'd like to try it someday!)
         
        06-02-2009, 09:45 AM
      #20
    Green Broke
    Unfortunately it's borderline impossible to talk to people like this, mostly because they actually see NOTHING wrong with what they're doing. It's like somehow they believe they have to be jumping big to be actually riding.

    I really like what twogeldings suggested - try to compare it to a scenerio very similair to something she may experience and how awful it would be for her. Maybe ask her how eventing can be so important to her when her very good horse is going to break down either mentally or physically from the stress and she'll be RIGHT back to square one.

    Again, it's very probable you'll likely have to see to the side and watch in horror. I really wish shows could find a way to implement a system that wouldn't ALLOW you to move up in level until you passed a certain test or placed well in a certain amount of shows.
         

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