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    06-03-2009, 01:32 PM
Green Broke
That's what I was afraid of... Thanks for the great suggestions guys! If anything happens you will surely hear it from me!
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    06-03-2009, 01:59 PM
I don't think a wreck of any size will matter to her. She is a spoiled brat, will blame it on the stupid horse for wrecking her chances and have to have mommy and daddy shell out more money for a new one. Her whole problem is that she has never had to earn anything in her life, therefore appreciates nothing. Especially the health and welfare of her horse, which is sickening. That is why she is trying to move up so fast, she doesn't think she should have to EARN it, she thinks she is entitled to it.
Sounds like a possible sociopath to me.

    06-04-2009, 07:30 PM
Wow- it amazes me when people buy a young horse and expect them to just barrel through the levels. Whenever you buy a horse you accept the responsibility of taking care of your horse's physical AND mental needs, which this girl is obviously not doing. I think it's horrible when people set goals of levels for horses and their selves (like what she's doing- Advanced by 8 years old). To me, it would seem like this would cause people to be so focused on levels instead of their actual horse and riding, so they would do anything to get to that level. I think that you just need to talk to her about this- even if she thinks you are jealous you might knock some sense into her. Don't stop trying, though, and see if you can get some other people to talk to her, too. Then she might realize that what she is doing is actually serious.
    06-22-2009, 01:08 PM
This is a total sadface moment. This might sound weird but try videotaping her while she shows. Zoom in on the terrified look her horse is giving and try showing it to her. Don't tell her that your showing her the bad stuff, see if she can see it herself. I doubt it will work, she seems to think she's entitled to the high levels. Eventually, she'll probably sell this horse for far less than she bought it for and then ruin a new one. Sadly, it happens all the time.
    06-22-2009, 02:52 PM
I can't even imagine pushing a horse too hard. My mare is 5 and we haven't even started jumping yet, I want to get all of the basics solid on her first. How someone can hurt a horse and not care is beyond me. I really hope this person realizes what she's doing wrong before she hurts the horse, though sadly I doubt that will happen
    06-22-2009, 03:09 PM
Green Broke
A little update....

She went to a local horse trial a couple of weeks ago and got eliminated on XC. Apparently it was because the horse stepped in a hole, went to her knees, and the rider fell off. *shrugs*

It hasn't slowed her down though, because it wasn't her or the horse's fault.
    06-22-2009, 03:28 PM
Was the horse ok?
    06-22-2009, 03:33 PM
Green Broke
Yeah, luckily all she got was a fat knee.
    06-22-2009, 07:54 PM
Tis is an interesting thread!
There is no way I could sit back and not say something...
It iscary when people just push push push Accident waiting to happen is right.
I would try the instructer first, but if that did not work I would have to do my best to try and approach this gal as best as I could without sounding as if I am being negative...I might make it sound as a concern but also make it as positive as I could by mentioning that staying in the lower leves for a good time period my help her horse to overcome its fears and pressures of the upper levels.
Wow it has been at least 20 years since I showed in any 3 days! Lots of things have changed that I do not even know
But..I have wittnessed this issue time and time again. Sometimes I think that the Person has a serious "ego" trip, or to much drive to be on top...
I think that confidence in any type of showing comes by practicing and not asking for to much all at once.
I even just had a big fat reminder of this with my own horse and we are ot even in a position to be riding...even on the ground I figured I might be asking a lot of him while he has to deal with so many things...The feet issues the new home issues and of course ...the fears of anything and everything...
If ditches are especially a problem for her and her horse you could just suggest a technique that you would use with your own horse if you were in her shoes...
Unfortunately you will probably get the "Hmph! I don't need your pointers or help" type of least that is what I think from the way you described the person.
All the best in trying to help a fellow horse person because sometimes another person has to point things out before we can see and deal with them...Maybe others will chime in and say something as well and that too could have an effect if she is hearing the same thing from several people!
Godd luck
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    06-22-2009, 08:53 PM
Sadly, I know someone like the girl you are talking about. When one horse is worn out or ruined the parents buy another even more expensive one. I suspect the parents in the situation you see are very competitive people and are teaching their daughter that winning is all and never teaching her compassion to others (like her horse). My guess is there is nothing you can do to alter the situation but if you follow her life, those attitudes will catch up to her in unexpected ways as she gets older and make her miserable. Unfortunately, innocent horses will pay along the way.

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