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Should horses be trained to tie 'solidly'?

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    View Poll Results: Should horses be trained to tie solidly?
    Yes. I think every horse should be trained to tie solidly as a part of becomming a 'trained horse'. 90 91.84%
    No. I do not think it is necessary for a horse to be trained to tie solidly. 1 1.02%
    Somethimes. I would like horses to tie solidly, but if a horse is going to fight it, I don't make a big deal out of it. 7 7.14%
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        08-23-2013, 10:02 AM
      #1
    Super Moderator
    Should horses be trained to tie 'solidly'?

    I have followed several different threads about horses that won't tie. Most have started out as a topic on "How can I train my horse to tie?" These topics almost always morph into a battle between people (like myself) that think EVERY horse should stand quietly while tied solidly and people that think horses should be allowed to break loose so they won't get hurt.

    I would like to hear people opinions on this and will set it up as a poll. I would like to know how the opinions are split up.

    Please, PLEASE respect others that disagree with your point of view on this. They are NOT 'stupid' or 'incompetent' because they have a different opinion. I just want to hear YOUR opinion and why. I will delete any post that runs anyone else down!!! I really want to know the breakdown on how many members think horses should be trained to tie solidly and how many do not make a big deal out of.
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        08-23-2013, 10:07 AM
      #2
    Green Broke
    YES. I do not like loose children and dogs on yards, but every horse I have ever owned will ground tie, cross tie or tie singularly and stay there until I tell it otherwise. This has been a savior on a couple of occasions when parents have let their kids run through the legs or past my horse.
    I also think it important as when I had horses, I was very rarely around for jabs and farrier; why should they pick up for my horses bad behavior?

    If I tell it to stand, it is part of the job, and it will stand. Happy feet time can come when it is in the stable or field. It is just good manners.

    Thought I should also add I have amazingly slow reaction speeds; I don't want my feet stood on either!
         
        08-23-2013, 10:09 AM
      #3
    Trained
    I start out "tying" by just holding the lead rope over a rail or hitching post, when the horse is a baby. I let them pull back and get a little tension and release as soon as they "give". As they get older and learn to give to pressure and their necks get stronger, then I'll start tying for real. After I have them standing for a couple of minutes without panicking, I move to tying to the side of my trailer for a few minutes. Then we move to the BIG, solid tree in the front yard. They get tied high, with water and a hay bag and they learn to stand tied all day long. If they fight, they aren't going to pull that tree down and they usually don't throw a wall eyed fit but once.

    So, YES, I'm in the tie solid camp.
         
        08-23-2013, 10:09 AM
      #4
    Yearling
    I think its important for a horse to know how to quietly stand tied.

    I think once they learn and have it down solidly it makes it so much easier to quickly loop a rope around a tree, or a fence rail, or a trailer ring, or anything accessible if you need to step away from their side for a few seconds to grab something.

    Once they do tie, I see no reason they couldn't wear a break-away halter/leather halter for them to 'break away' if something happens, or just keep them in a normal nylon/rope halter. Whatever the owners personal preference is. However, if they did start to break away, and it became a habit they'd go right back into a firmer halter for me.

    I like knowing that regardless of what I have on my horses head he will stand wherever I put him, and quietly.
         
        08-23-2013, 10:15 AM
      #5
    Foal
    Add me to the solid tie group. I need to be able to trust my horse to hang out where I ask if I need to be elsewhere. I find it to be a safety concern if nothing else.

    I do understand that sometimes things go awry, and I do see how breakaway halters, Equipings, and other "safety tie" options have their place. I want my horses to use that as a last resort, though.
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        08-23-2013, 10:26 AM
      #6
    Started
    I agree with teaching horses to tie gradually, from baby on. My babies stand with their rope looped around a post next to mum, from a couple months on. Often by the time they are weanlings, that rope being around a post means "stand quietly". Once they reach that point, we progress to tying fast, with supervision, which turns into tying fast for hours as a two year old.

    I need my horses to tie fast for hours, when your in the mountain and your horse is high lined, tied to a tree or tied to the trailer, they MUST stand quietly. A horse that snaps halters and runs off into the bush, leaving its rider on foot far from the nearest road is utterly unacceptable.

    Its funny, with all the young horses(foals to 4 year olds) I've halter broken and trained to tie, all end up tying quietly. I have never had a horse I was training to tie break a halter or rope, or develop a habit of pulling back.
         
        08-23-2013, 10:32 AM
      #7
    Trained
    I will NEVER own a horse who doesn't know how to tie.

    IMO, if a horse acts antsy or pulls back while being tied...They go to the "tree of shame" and will stand tied there for the rest of the day until they decide that was a bad idea.

    At the barn I work at now, the two year olds will stand like rocks for days if you left them there, I'm sure, and they're just babies. Started right, no horse should have a problem. As babies they just have to accept that's a part of life.

    Selena has pulled back on me once in her life. Besides her inability to stand straight (She only likes to stand sideways, no matter where she's tied) she is great in a tie. The time she pulled back on me was at a barrel race and I whacked her hard across the butt. She jumped right back to her spot like "Oh, well that didn't work..." and went back to munching.
         
        08-23-2013, 10:35 AM
      #8
    Super Moderator
    Its very important for me that my horses know how to be tied and to stand there 'for as long as' and I think all horses should be able to do this
    What does differ is how people get from A to B but with the same end result and that's where its important to respect that a different way of doing things is not wrong if it works
    I think we also need to separate what I see as being able to deal quickly and safely with a horse in a 'panic' situation which is very important because it can happen in even the best trained horses especially youngsters and not the same as a horse that's just being a PITA and refusing to be tied
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        08-23-2013, 10:42 AM
      #9
    Yearling
    I expect my horses to stand tied solidly.
         
        08-23-2013, 10:45 AM
      #10
    Green Broke
    I think that a horse should be able to stand quietly.
         

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