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    03-20-2010, 01:15 PM
  #1
Weanling
Should I cross tie?

This probably isn't the right place to put this (), but anyway...

I've had folks tell me that I shouldn't cross tie my horse. I've heard other folks who say I should cross tie him. Who should I believe?
     
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    03-20-2010, 02:17 PM
  #2
Weanling
I always cross tie my horse. Just make sure the ties/ropes whatever are safety release incase something happens
     
    03-20-2010, 03:18 PM
  #3
Showing
I don't cross tie either. Mostly because I don't have any
I keep saying I'm going to set some up, just so my girls know how to do it. I think its important for a horse to stand tied and to ground tie in general. It doesn't matter how, just so they do it well.
My only reason for teaching it, if I have to sell them someday. If asked I can say, 'Yes they stand in cross ties"
     
    03-20-2010, 03:36 PM
  #4
Showing
I don't think it really matters what everyone else thinks. If you want your horses to cross tie, then get some cross ties and work on it. If you don't think it's that big of a deal, then don't worry about it. I don't cross tie because I don't need to. My horses are content to stand however I have them tied and I just don't feel the need to restrict them that much. I am sure they would cross tie if I put them in there but IMHO, I think the cross ties would probably get in my way. I would get aggravated having to duck under them every time I walked around the horse.
     
    03-20-2010, 04:06 PM
  #5
Started
I have cross ties, mainly because that's what I'd always used over years of taking lessons, and riding friends horses before I got my own. Cross ties were just something that I had always seen in barns, so a set went in my barn aisle when we built the stalls. Sometimes I use them, sometimes I just ground tie my horse to groom him, etc. It's totally your personal preference. I know people too who roll their eyes when I say that I do have cross ties, but set up correctly (safety snaps or blocker rings are my favorite ways to panic-proof any tie situation) they are no less safe than any other tying method, IMHO.
     
    03-20-2010, 04:31 PM
  #6
Banned
I shoe in cross ties all the time. I hate a horse tied to a wall or post and shoing. Whatever they are tied to gets in my way so yes I want all horses to cross tie.
     
    03-20-2010, 05:57 PM
  #7
Weanling
Riosdad-thats cool that you do shoeing. My horse has pretty flat front feet and the farrier always told me he needs shoes onhis front bc of that. Is shoes really necessary for flat feet?
     
    03-20-2010, 06:04 PM
  #8
Foal
I don't see any problem with cross-ties as long as you take the regular safety precautions. I ride at a barn with 80+ horses and have never had an incident with cross-ties before.
     
    03-20-2010, 09:23 PM
  #9
Banned
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Originally Posted by heyycutter    
Riosdad-thats cool that you do shoeing. My horse has pretty flat front feet and the farrier always told me he needs shoes onhis front bc of that. Is shoes really necessary for flat feet?
If the horse has flat feet he has alot of sole pressure and any small stone can bruise him. I would shoe a flat footed horse for his comfort.
     
    03-21-2010, 08:13 PM
  #10
Trained
On the question of x-ties, I think it's a good idea to teach a horse to accept this & other types of restraint, as they might have to deal with it some day, for veterinary or whatever else. But I don't think it's a good idea to just bung them into this situation, or make a point of x-tying them generally to effectively force them into things. Eg. Many people talk about not being able to saddle, worm, wash, whatever without x-ties. IMO this is not the best way to teach a horse & I wouldn't personally do those things on x-ties until the horse is comfortable standing untied for them.

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Originally Posted by heyycutter    
Riosdad-thats cool that you do shoeing. My horse has pretty flat front feet and the farrier always told me he needs shoes onhis front bc of that. Is shoes really necessary for flat feet?
Sorry to go OT... Conventional shoes are definitely not necessary for flat feet, and I personally don't think they're very helpful, except palliatively. Shoes often (tho I don't believe always, by any means) perpetuate the problem too. They raise the sole another 1/4" or so from the ground, so on level, smooth surfaces do provide a bit of a buffer against small stones, but on any other surface, they provide no protection to the thin, weak soles, and just as importantly, on firm ground, provide no support to the sole/frog. For the sole to become strong & thick & concave, it needs support/ground pressure, and the walls/laminae needs to be relieved of excess pressure, rather than being fully loaded. Therefore for flat footed horses, I think keeping walls short & well trimmed and using boots &/or pads to protect & support the bottom of the foot are the better options. You can learn more about the principles of hoof function & rehab at hoofrehab.com among other good sites.
     

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