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        04-18-2011, 07:24 AM
    Should I just shut up?

    Salem will be 3 next month and right now our big focus is bending, aquireing balance and softening to the bit. Now, when we were working on ground training before the under saddle stuff,we spent a POO-TON of time on the lunge line and therefore Salem is well trained to verbal cues. He moves off,transitions and halts by verbal cues. But I was thinking maybe I need to start making him focus on my hands and legs more,taking the verbal cues out of the equation for now? Thoughts on this?
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        04-18-2011, 07:38 AM
    Use the voice to enforce hand/leg
        04-18-2011, 07:56 AM
    Green Broke
    I know a lot of people use verbal cues and I see their point. Why would you take verbal cues out and want him to respond to hands and legs? Can you use both? If he works well and responds good to verbal cues maybe you can incorporate hand/leg cues slowly. Otherwise he may get confused.
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        04-18-2011, 08:08 AM
    I do use both (he gets A.D.D. When there are other horses or things around that he finds interesting lol) so then he gets the verbal cue and if theres no response, hands/legs. But the problem is that we are only using those hannd/leg cues intermittenly,not consistently and I worry that his "feel" for them isnt developing enough.
        04-18-2011, 08:14 AM
    Green Broke
    Give him time. He is still very young. His attention is still very short. When he isn't paying attention to you, make him move his feet. And being consistent is the key if that is how you want to train him. He will get it soon enough. Consistency will definitely be the factor. Good luck
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        04-18-2011, 08:27 AM
    Try doing it the other way round. Hand/leg then voice cue.
        04-18-2011, 08:37 AM
    Verbal cues are good tools for training purposes. However, if you plan on doing any Dressage tests/showing verbal cues are not allowed. Probably your best option is to transition from being verbal to using your legs, seat and body to communicate with your horse.
        04-18-2011, 07:37 PM
    I don't plan to show dressage but want him responsive to all forms of cues in the end.Just wondering if I was preventing him from picking up on the physical cues sooner by using the verbal first and foremost.Hes a CLEVER lil guy and I always worry that its ME slowing him down lol
        04-18-2011, 08:03 PM
    I always use my body first and then I might use my voice. I used to use voice cues and now I hardly use them at all but if there was some confusion I would consider it but I would always ask first with my body. Maybe you just need to wait a little longer before backing it up with a voice cue.
        04-18-2011, 08:11 PM
    Green Broke
    I start my horse with verbal cues as I find it a much easier transition from ground to saddle. It's a lot easier to teach the horse that your legs squeezing mean forward when he already has a cue for forward you can use to associate it with. I use verbal cues like click training on youngsters - once they learn the cue, I quit with the verbal command under saddle.

    I keep my horses will polished on verbal cues for the lunge/round pen, but not under saddle as I've seen WAY too many problems with people riding in groups and one person clucks and ALL the horses want to take off because it means gallop or something!

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