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    03-03-2011, 11:54 PM
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I am looking to buy a horse but a little confused on what the levels mean, I am looking to ride western pleasure ....

Is an open level horse better than a novice or novice amateur.

Is select amateur better than the open or novice?

What is the highest ?
Or lowest?

Or how do they differ.

THANKS!!
     
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    03-04-2011, 01:04 AM
  #2
Trained
Since normally WP is more of a breed level type class. As there is not assocaition like Cutting reining and speed event have you end up with a couple different levesl

Open means that the rider is a pro. Trainer of some kind. Now an Ammy can show in the open if they wish.

Non Pro is just that a non pro rider and an open level rider (trainer) can not show in the ammy/non pro classes.

Past that there are other brake downs from there. There is the youth. Normally broken down a bit more for age. Also novice youth. Again based on points. Then there is the novice ammy which is limited by the number of points a rider has in a give discipline. No rider can go down in class. So if you have too many points then you can not show in a novice class. Any rider can move up if they wish with out a problem.

No one division is better then the other out side of the fact that the competition is stiffer in the open b/c they are pros. The idea is to make the playing field more level for all.
     
    03-04-2011, 01:33 AM
  #3
Foal
Thank you very much nrhareiner !!!!

I was inquiring about a horse and they said that she is a great novice, amateur horse, but is not quite good enough for the select amateur. Yet she has points in halter, WP, Western riding and trail in amateur and open divisions. So that confused me .

She also has her open performance register of merit which im not sure what that exactly is/means.
     
    03-04-2011, 11:48 AM
  #4
Trained
Sounds like with the the correct rider she would be good at any level. If you are looking for a good horse who can show you the ropes this sounds like it would be a good one. Select Ammy is a newer division and really brings out the best of the best. She has open points but then you have to look at where and when and in what competition.
     
    03-04-2011, 02:30 PM
  #5
Started
In big breed shows, open classes include trainers. Those are typically harder for ammys to win, so a horse that does well in open classes is generally a well-trained horse with a trainer level rider.
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    03-04-2011, 05:47 PM
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Foal
She won open points in 2010 and 2009 and 2008. So the question is. Is an open horse really just used to a trainer and responds better to a trainer and an amature horse /novice/ open excels with every type of rider? I am looking at that horse I have said and there is another that is just good as an open level horse.
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    03-04-2011, 05:48 PM
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Foal
I am really needing one that will show me the ropes this whole horse is only really an open horse and this horse is not good enough for select am is just all so confusing
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    03-04-2011, 06:45 PM
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Trained
You have to keep in mind several things when looking at a horse that has points and earnings in open and ammy/non pro. Where where they shown and by who.

Select is a total different area and something that if you are just now getting into showing will not probably be doing anyway.

You really need to go and look at the mare and ride her see if you can get her to work for you. I have a mare who has earnings in open, Int Open Rookie Pro Green and Rookie reining. However that does not mean every rider could get her to show well. She can and has proven she can win at every level but it comes down to how well the rider rides.
     

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