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    04-23-2012, 06:56 PM
  #1
Foal
Question Showing the derby reining horse

Recently my horse started to do his own speed control in the show pen. He charged his run downs still stops big but out of control run.
I was discouraged from keeping him being told this is the most difficult prob lem to fix.
He is a very talented animal, and fun to ride.
Has anyone had success fixing this problem. He only has this year left to derby so it has to be a fast fix.
     
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    04-23-2012, 07:15 PM
  #2
Trained
Is he only doing it in the show pen or is he doing it at home too?
     
    04-23-2012, 07:29 PM
  #3
Foal
showing problems

He does it home but not like he just did it to me in the pen.
He usually starts the run down fine and than might squirt off fast the last
1/3 of the run so I can usually fix it with 3 or 4 fencings at home
This has only happened once so bad that it hurt our scores.
But it hurt them badly. I was told it will get worse.
     
    04-23-2012, 07:47 PM
  #4
Trained
It will only get worse.

I sure there are others that have better ideas. But I would shut him down when he starts to peel out on his own. Also I do a lot of loping down the center of the pen not asking for speed and not stopping. When I get to the end I make a corner and head down to the other end. He needs to not anticipate and get excited about running down there. When he can lope down there slow then you can ask for a little speed then make the corner, not stopping, and when you make the corner I do it slow like as if I was asking for a small slow after a large fast. If he gets chargey at the end you can also countercanter him around the short side. It makes them slow and soft. Really get him paying attention to your seat. Change up the routine. Sounds like he has gotten a little show smart. Might not hurt to take him to some cheap schooling shows.
     
    04-23-2012, 08:09 PM
  #5
Super Moderator
Yes it can be fixed if it is just getting started.

You have let him learn patterns and routines and now he has put himself in the driver's seat. Do a LOT of non-pattern riding. Do a lot of coming around the end going slow all the way past the stopping area, lope around the end of the pen and lope back up the other side.

If you come around the end of the pen about 20 times each time you ride and do not pick up speed a single time, you will set a different pattern in his head.

Then, when he decides you are in charge, run and stop one time and do about 20 or 30 slows run-downs after one fast one.

Do you have 'paid runs' available to you in a show-pen with announcers and the whole deal? If so, you need to spend 2 or 3 of them on schooling.

You may need a 'new cue' for getting him to 'back off' of the bridle. Whether or not you try a different cue, you need to get him off of the muscle totally on run-downs.

You need to do 'speed control' adjustments on straight runs as well as on fast and slow circles. When he ignores you asking him to come back to you, take both hands and 'get into him hard' and then do it over until you regain his respect for you on the reins.

You will find that any time he starts to 'carry you' in the show pen, you forget trying to bluff your way through the class and just fix the problem right then and take your 'zero'. One zero is very minor compared to having to 'fix' a set habit like you have now.
     
    04-24-2012, 01:18 AM
  #6
Foal
Thanks for all the good tips I have not tried cheri's exercises
So I start that tomorrow and yes I will be schooling him a bunch
Over the next 2 months I just needed some positive help thank you both
     
    04-24-2012, 10:05 AM
  #7
Super Moderator
I forgot to tell you one of the other things I always did when I taught run-downs and stops. I used to do many more runs diagonally (corner to opposite corner) than I did straight down the center or off to one side. The diagonal runs insured that my horses guided correctly -- especially after they had been shown quite a bit and it was never duplicated in the show pen. You just have to always remember that everything you duplicate over and over is going to become a set pattern in a horse's head. Reiners have to listen to their riders EVERY time they are ridden and can mever be allowed to think they know what is coming next. It is the rider's job to prevent them from learning patterns.

Are you planning on coming to OKC to the Derby in June?

Good Luck.
     
    04-25-2012, 04:14 PM
  #8
Foal
Planning on it going to schooling show this weekend we'll see how he does
     

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