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post #1 of 11 Old 05-30-2008, 11:00 PM Thread Starter
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Side-reins

what's all your opinions on side-reins...I was thinking about getting the pessona thing (or whatever the real name for it is) but it's really expensive and watching videos of horses in side-reins they do seem to be rounded and flexed really well.

Any advice, suggestions or info is greatly appreciated
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post #2 of 11 Old 05-30-2008, 11:24 PM
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Be careful!!
I just introduced Maia to them, and even on the longest setting she got freaked out a few times and almost reared - I had to act quick and get her moving forwards again. Ideally they shoould be introduced after the horse is giving to the rein, or they can get freaked out about the constant contact.
They are great for guiding a horse into a correct frame, but the horse can get "stuck" above the vertical and not know how to correct it, so you might have to coax them back into a correct headset.


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It's not my way of doing things, but this is my experience. My friend didn't use side reins, but when this horse, Peanut, kept popping up on her, she pulled the knot at the end through the gullet on the Western saddle then wrapped them around the saddle horn. They worked liked side reins. He popped up with them, but he was okay. He did drop his head and broke over. I guess for some horses they don't work, but they did for Peanut. It was funny watching my friend work with him though. She is like 5' 6" and about 100 lbs (probably more, I'm exaggerating). She was like "You can fall on yourself if you're going to pop up on me!" It was so funny. I didn't fully agree with what she was doing, because I don't like using force, but that's her way of doing things.

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Be careful!!
I just introduced Maia to them, and even on the longest setting she got freaked out a few times and almost reared - I had to act quick and get her moving forwards again. Ideally they shoould be introduced after the horse is giving to the rein, or they can get freaked out about the constant contact.
They are great for guiding a horse into a correct frame, but the horse can get "stuck" above the vertical and not know how to correct it, so you might have to coax them back into a correct headset.
When I ride Sonny I always have constant contact with the reins...
How is the side reins different from the pessona system? Isn't it all about the same just the side reins don't have the back part that goes around the legs?

I am trying to think of stuff my barn owner would have so I could try it out before I bought it, but I don't think she has the pessona system...if anything she'd have the side-reins.

I can get Sonny to lower his head by putting my hands lower and opening them wider and I can also get him to put his head on the vertical...is that what you mean by "giving to the rein"?
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I did a lot of research before I bought my pessoa. From what I read horses will appear to have a proper head set but have no collection because they are actually leaning on the side reins, and once you remove them, you're back to square one.

Vienna style side reins has the same affect as side reins, but since they aren't stationary horses can't lean against them.

Here are just a few articles:
http://www.classicaldressage.co.uk/h...nna_reins.html
http://www.horse-sense.org/archives/sidepros.php
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post #6 of 11 Old 05-31-2008, 02:23 PM Thread Starter
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so would you recommend the pessoa more than the side-reins?
I want to get something that I can work with Sonny to rebuild his topline and get him to carry himself properly...but I don't have too much extra money....I mean I'd have enough...but I don't want to buy something and then have it not work

What, in everyone's opinion, works better?
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post #7 of 11 Old 05-31-2008, 02:38 PM
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The vienna side reins work good, I prefer them to other side reins.

These are Vienna side reins


And these are standard side reins


I like the my pessoa that I have (it's really not pessoa, but I call it that so there's less confusion) I got mine off sstack for $35 and it does the same thing as the actual Pessoa retailing over $100.
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which would you recommend more though, Appy? The Vienna or the Pessoa (your version...don't have enough I don't think for the expensive one)?
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Well I have yet to use the vienna, so i'm going to say the pessoa one.
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I personally only agree with side reins if used correctly, and used on a horse that know's how to accept contact and what they mean. I know people who have put side reins on young horses/not establishedly trained horses, and the horses have reared up and flipped over, resulting in 2 cracked skulls and deaths.

You would think that they'd be the same as shortened rein contact, but I think because they side reins don't stretch to a certain point, they feel trapped
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