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        01-23-2013, 12:27 PM
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    Foal
    Smokey fears the pasture any advice?

    Hello all I'm new to the forum and my wife and I own a 9 yr old TWH gelding. He does great in the riding ring and obeys the commands I give him. We mainly have rode him in the riding ring since we got him about 6 months ago. I am a confident beginner rider and still learning a lot each riding session. My wife on the other hand is an experienced rider who is just getting back into horses and is a little fearful of Smokey's behavior at times. I have recently been wanting to ride him in the pasture since he's been doing so good in the riding ring but we are have problems with this task. I've tried a few different things like ride him straight from the ring to the pasture, walk him to a point in the pasture then get on him but still get the same results. He continuously backs up shakes his head and tries to go directly back to the barn. I've tried to take him in tight circles, kicks of encouragement, getting off walking a bit then getting back on. I know I'm probably doing some things wrong as I've said I'm just a beginner rider but I do believe that Smokey and I can conquer his fear together. He shows no signs of aggressiveness with these fits just small bucks it seams like fear and anxiety to me. I don't get nervous or angry and often times I will just stop him and encourage him but as soon as I command him to move forward he freaks out. If anyone can help give me some tips or advice I would greatly appreciate it thanks a lot in advance.
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        01-23-2013, 01:08 PM
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    Started
    Welcome! (: and congratulations on being a rider! Haha

    Why do you want to ride in the pasture? Just a change?

    This is an odd thing, since all of our horses are rideable in their pastures.

    Maybe try just lunging him in the pasture. But before you do this, what's your pasture footing like?
         
        01-23-2013, 01:42 PM
      #3
    Yearling
    Totally normal. Most all horses that haven't been ridden out much will do this especially if they're kept inside most of the time. I've even seen one that if you turned her out, she'd pace the fence all day long until you came to get her and put her back into her familiar stall. That's on the extreme end of things.

    One thing you might could try would be to take your horse on walks just like you would a dog. I call it 'walking the dog' lol. It's a good way to expose a horse to new experiences while staying a little safer than you would be riding them. Once he learns that being outside and going places with you is okay then you can start to jump up on him occasionally, when things are calm. Eventually it'll be no big deal and your horse will become a good trail horse with a minimum of scary experiences for you both!
         
        01-23-2013, 01:53 PM
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    Green Broke
    Pick a point to ride to. Like a tree of something. Keep focused on that and imagine getting there. Do not look down at the horse just focus forward and keep his head facing that way and between the reins. Make sure you are not pulling back and tensing up. I would go for something say with in 40 feet and work you way further. Getting off and going back to the barn is going to reinforce the bad behavior. Sounds barn sour or ring sour to me.
         
        01-23-2013, 01:57 PM
      #5
    Weanling
    Welcome to the forum!

    I don't think it is fear at all. He's resisting because he wants to be done with work and go back to the barn, and knows the way he acts will make you give into him. It's referred to as "barn sour". It is a common problem, and there are many different ways you could deal with it, but it comes down to him accepting that you are dominant.

    I'm a little worried about your wife being nervous of him. If she's an experienced rider and he makes her nervous, I'm a little concerned about you as a beginner riding him. It would be worth bringing in a trainer to assist both of you and ensure that Smokey is behaving as he should and can provide guidance on exactly what Smokey is doing when he resists you.
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        01-23-2013, 03:35 PM
      #6
    Showing
    Try to think of it from the horse's point of view - what represents the most security to him? His stall, other horses? Where does he usually get his feed? Those are what draws a horse back to the barn/horse area. Try taking a pan of feed and setting it out in the pasture, about where he stalls out. If you have to dismount and show it to him and let him have it. (set out just a nibble or two) Each day set it farther. He'll start looking for it. Make it your idea to turn and go home, not his and don't allow him to hurry.
         
        01-23-2013, 03:37 PM
      #7
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    Try to think of it from the horse's point of view - what represents the most security to him? His stall, other horses? Where does he usually get his feed? Those are what draws a horse back to the barn/horse area. Try taking a pan of feed and setting it out in the pasture, about where he stalls out. If you have to dismount and show it to him and let him have it. (set out just a nibble or two) Each day set it farther. He'll start looking for it. Make it your idea to turn and go home, not his and don't allow him to hurry.
    Really?? Sounds like a lot of work when the horse just needs some leadership and not coddled. I hate when treats are used to replace training.
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        01-24-2013, 01:39 AM
      #8
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Philjen811    
    Hello all I'm new to the forum and my wife and I own a 9 yr old TWH gelding. He does great in the riding ring and obeys the commands I give him. We mainly have rode him in the riding ring since we got him about 6 months ago. I am a confident beginner rider and still learning a lot each riding session. My wife on the other hand is an experienced rider who is just getting back into horses and is a little fearful of Smokey's behavior at times. I have recently been wanting to ride him in the pasture since he's been doing so good in the riding ring but we are have problems with this task. I've tried a few different things like ride him straight from the ring to the pasture, walk him to a point in the pasture then get on him but still get the same results. He continuously backs up shakes his head and tries to go directly back to the barn. I've tried to take him in tight circles, kicks of encouragement, getting off walking a bit then getting back on. I know I'm probably doing some things wrong as I've said I'm just a beginner rider but I do believe that Smokey and I can conquer his fear together. He shows no signs of aggressiveness with these fits just small bucks it seams like fear and anxiety to me. I don't get nervous or angry and often times I will just stop him and encourage him but as soon as I command him to move forward he freaks out. If anyone can help give me some tips or advice I would greatly appreciate it thanks a lot in advance.
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    Welcome to the forum!!
    To me it doesn't sound like a fear problem at all, he just doesn't want to go out by himself and so he's acting out.
    Do you do any ground work with him at all, it really helps to gain the horses respect and teaches him to trust you as the leader. I would look at doing ground work with him and get him listening/respecting you as his leader.....with you being a beginner I would be careful, the fact that he's throwing his head around and probably dancing around I would be leary of him bolting back or bucking on you.....try some ground work first before you try to ride him out in the pasture....
         
        01-24-2013, 11:32 AM
      #9
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Thunderspark    
    Welcome to the forum!!
    To me it doesn't sound like a fear problem at all, he just doesn't want to go out by himself and so he's acting out.
    Do you do any ground work with him at all, it really helps to gain the horses respect and teaches him to trust you as the leader. I would look at doing ground work with him and get him listening/respecting you as his leader.....with you being a beginner I would be careful ul fulthe fact that he's throwing his head around and probably dancing you round I would be leary of him bolting back or bucking on you.....try some ground work first before you try to ride him out in the pasture....
    Thanks a lot for your advice and no I don't do any ground work with him but I will incorporate that into our riding sessions more often seems like that would help get him to trust and respect me more. He's actually only bucked me off once when we first got him and I've done pretty good so far preventing him from bolting back to the barn. I will definitely look up some ground work techniques thanks a lot again I appreciate any advice! I don't think the bit were using is the best match for him either so I may change that up too.
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        01-24-2013, 11:35 AM
      #10
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Ian McDonald    
    Totally normal. Most all horses that haven't been ridden out much will do this especially if they're kept inside most of the time. I've even seen one that if you turned her out, she'd pace the fence all day long until you came to get her and put her back into her familiar stall. That's on the extreme end of things.

    One thing you might could try would be to take your horse on walks just like you would a dog. I call it 'walking the dog' lol. It's a good way to expose a horse to new experiences while staying a little safer than you would be riding them. Once he learns that being outside and going places with you is okay then you can start to jump up on him occasionally, when things are calm. Eventually it'll be no big deal and your horse will become a good trail horse with a minimum of scary experiences for you both!
    Thanks I will try this exercise with him too to see if it helps settle him down...... I appreciate your advice.
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