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        02-13-2014, 04:47 PM
      #21
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by jaydee    
    The OP is in the situation she is in by her own choice and no amount of lecturing is going to change that now so telling her to sell them or find a trainer is no solution at all.
    Agreed, which is why I didn't say such this time around.

    I do however feel that the OP is severely underestimating how badly she can get hurt moving forward on her current path. My response was directed at hopefully opening her eyes to the seriousness of the situation based on sharing a story (first hand from another HF member, so there's no questioning it) on what could very well go wrong.

    If the staff feels that's inappropriate then feel free to remove my responses to this thread, no hard feelings, but I genuinely don't want to see the OP end up in the same situation as the story I linked, that's all.

    And I'll respectfully step away from this thread now.
         
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        02-13-2014, 08:08 PM
      #22
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Ebonyisforme    
    The horse I posted about me thinking threatening to buck finally did it...my sister and I were riding around in the pasture so the other horse was loose, just following us around.
    This is a very dangerous thing to do. No beginner rider should ride in a herd for any reason. Doesn't matter that is seems the best option at this moment, it's still dangerous.


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    Originally Posted by Ebonyisforme    
    But she fell behind so she cantered past to catch up and the horse I was riding tried to follow her into a canter, so naturally I pulled her back, and that made her decide to buck!
    Absolutely normal horse behavior. You shouldn't even be surprised.


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    Originally Posted by Ebonyisforme    
    got back on. I rode around for a while after that to prove to her that she isn't getting out of work by doing that.
    This is quite the only right thing in the whole topic.


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    Originally Posted by Ebonyisforme    
    I would start swinging the rope from side to side without actually hitting her and she would get going.
    The way I see this, it will only desensitize her to the rope, or, worse, teach her to run when something moves. Hit (not hard) her behind your leg if she doesn't move, but don't swing the rope uselessly. In addiction, you don't really want your horse to accelerate every time she sees something moving on her back, in other circumstances it might be you putting on a jacket or waving your hands… not something that you want to mean "move please".


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    Originally Posted by Ebonyisforme    
    I fell on my head.
    Helmet!!!!!!!!!!!


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ebonyisforme    
    I don't know what to do to prevent her from doing that again.
    Nothing, I guess. Not riding in a field with other horses would be a start, but a horse that bucks when excited or pissed will do it anyway unless you can prevent it.

    First thing is staying on. Don't pull at the reins, just stay on and if you didn't fall already tell the horse to go forward. A horse cannot trot and buck at the same time.


    Unfortunately, you ask for something that cannot be done. You cannot have it all: ride this horse in a herd and train her to not buck on your own and not fall ever. It's like you're asking to eat a cake, but you don't want to buy it, and you don't have the right ingredients, and you want to touch the oven with bare hands. You're not going to have the cake, and you could get burns in the attempt.

    What you can do:

    - accept that this horse sometimes bucks, and focus on staying on & not getting hurt: helmet is mandatory, you can save and buy an australian saddle (the ears should help you staying on), maybe wearing a vest could be a good idea too, and riding in a calm and safe pen without other horses around.

    - decide you want a nice & calm horse who doesn't flinch if a bomb explodes between his feet. There is one and only way to have such a horse: buying it.


    Don't use the "not enough money" as an excuse. You can decide to sell something (not necessarily the horses), or save in other ways and find the money to take lessons, hire a trainer, buy a saddle, build a little pen where you can ride safely, whatever you prefer.

    Or you can decide that you need to keep all you have now, but that this horse (and maybe some of the others?) is not perfectly safe to ride so it's better to just ride the one who's safest and leave alone the others.
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        02-13-2014, 08:10 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
    If the horses are running on their own in the snow and you are riding them in the snow, there's no reason you can't lunge them in it.

    It is hard to fight instincts. But you can train them not to rely on them. Do you have a round pen? If not, it will be hard to work on getting your horse not to run off too and be safe. Do you and your sister ride separate horses? If so, you could try having your sister go circles and ovals around you on your horse, standing in the center. If she, your horse, acts up, flex her to both sides. If she stands fine, leave her be. Once she gets good at that, have your sister ride around you with your horse walking. It's not an overnight fix by any means. It will take some practice. Then you can work on your sister passing you from behind and in front on straight stretches.
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        02-14-2014, 08:16 AM
      #24
    Foal
    Well first, I would tie the other horse up. Period. Point blank. I was in a situation where I got a horse I could handle, from a rescue. He was born there and really attached. He also had issues. He was abused and basically in a field his whole life. As close to a mustang as a quarter horse can get. But still, I could handle him. We moved him from the rescue and he was shellshocked. He kind of flipped. At that point I couldnt handle him. I got thrown into a wall, lucky to leave with a scrape, bruised knees, and torn pant leg. I got back on and kept riding. He did fine for a while then I was riding and one of the trainers told me to lope.. I was so nervous because that's what we were doing when he threw me. She put a lunge line on him and I told him to lope. I lost my balance and hung on his side trying to pull myself back on. Then I fell and he stepped on me. It was accidental but I was terrified. I got back on for a little bit and then my mom got there. I iced my knee and sat and watched the trainer ride him. I ended up with scar tissue in my knee. I understand you can't afford a trainer(i had mine trained for five months, supposed to be 2 but I got a concussion, not from riding though) but try and have a friend work with him for a while. I rode lesson horses to get my confidence back. This is what I advise you to do. Not necessarily lesson horses but less green horses. Your safety comes first! And if she hasnt been bucking, just ride on the gravel and just walk/trot for a few days, then lope.

    Also, learn how to stop her from bucking. After only grooming my horse for so long, I observed his body language and riding other horses made me a much better rider. That's about all you can do, is stop the buck before it happens. My horse has gotten nervous and moved around and just with the possibility of him bucking, I pulled one rein and got him to make a few circles. I still make mistakes as a rider that causes him to react but now he's my little angel and he's been much more cuddly! I REALLY advise you to get to know your horse and just ride others for a while and try to get more experienced riders to ride her for a while.
         
        02-14-2014, 02:12 PM
      #25
    Weanling
    I've looked a little through your past posts and threads. Now you say you/your family do not have a budget to hire a trainer or instructor.

    What I am suggesting is, see what clubs are out there, between 4-H and other local clubs there has to be something. You then can at least get people around you to help and guide you in a safe manner. Most equine clubs only charge maybe $20 a year. If you do not have a local 4-H group, go to your local feed store, tack store, wherever you go to get your horse feed/equipment and ASK the employees, or look at their bulletin board. I'm sure you can find people in the area who would be willing to help you, and/or make new horse friends.
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        02-14-2014, 03:06 PM
      #26
    Weanling
    With bucking I have been told to push my horse through it. Also, they usually put their heads down before they do a big enough buck to throw a rider, so to puy can always try to pull it up? I'd tie the loose horses up too.
         

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