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Soft Bits vs Harsh bits?

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    11-06-2008, 08:47 PM
Yah..he secons is a combination hack+bit.. there were some with a steel bow with wired metal on the nose part..

Simple is good..
I'll stick to my riding cavesson an escauela bit..>_>'

Wanna buy this? If the horse runs off he'll probably get stuck somewhere with those shanks, so you can catch him easily!

Why do people think they need this? O__o I feel a bit upset right now..
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    11-06-2008, 08:48 PM
It's wonderful with sensetive horses tho :) I hope Crow will be the same when he comes back..he's sensetive now but doesn't know what I mean..
    11-06-2008, 08:54 PM
Honestly I don't even understand why these are manufactured. If your up to that bit don't you think it's time to send your horse off to a trainer? I'd rather buy a 25$ riding lesson than a 25$ bit you'll get results that last! With bits you can move up and up but you're only buying time until the horse's mouth becomes dead to the new harsher bit. I love hwo responsive my horse has become! I've concentrated on making my whole body signal him to turn and stop and it's really payed off!

Why would your horse Crow not be sensitive after coming back?
    11-06-2008, 08:59 PM
I think he will bem, that's why I sent him away in the first place.. xD I guess I rather hope that I'll be baanced enough to ride him with subtle aids. X)
I'm off to bed now, it's 2 am..
    11-06-2008, 10:49 PM
The chin strap is how you get your leverage. The chin strap puts pressure on the jaw and also puts pressure on the mouthpiece, pulling it down on the bars and tongue of the horses inside of the mouth. Now there's advantages like its easier to get a headset out of a horse because of the downwards pull. A curb bit is not always harsh even though it sounds like it, its all in how its used. You can encourage a good headset or pull your horses head forcefully into one. Curb straps should typically allow two fingers stacked on top of each other for looseness. The shanks should rotate (some websites vary) between 30-50 degrees. Mine probably rotates about 50 degrees, it needs to in order for the mouthpiece to not hit the roof of his mouth. Also I use a leather curb strap, this is less severe than a metal chain. Also thick chains are nicer than thin ones. Of cours as it has been said and should be said over and over again the riders hands are more important than any part of the bit.

Originally Posted by Velvetgrace    
So directing back to the question of soft vs. harsh.

Would a chin strap apply to being harsh with a certain type of bit? In all reality, what is the purpose of the chin strap, advantages, and disadvantages.
    11-07-2008, 06:02 PM
I also want to add; curb bits (with chinstraps) should never be used to tuck the horses nose in. It should be used with giving the rein; you take a part of the rein and give more; the horse yields to the bit and goes up/in, then follows the rein when you release and go down/forward. That's why it's important that the horse has learnt to follow the bit before you use a curb.
    04-29-2015, 10:21 PM
A tom thumb IS NOT a snaffle bit! A snaffle bit is a bit that that doesn't have a shank. Please learn the difference before you give people advice. The Tom Thumb is one of the worst bits you can use on a Horse. Please don't use one.
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    04-29-2015, 10:27 PM
Originally Posted by pigachuws    
A tom thumb IS NOT a snaffle bit! A snaffle bit is a bit that that doesn't have a shank. Please learn the difference before you give people advice. The Tom Thumb is one of the worst bits you can use on a Horse. Please don't use one.
The tom thumb bit should be outlawed.
    04-29-2015, 10:28 PM
No metal in my horses mouth thank you.

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