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        02-13-2010, 01:36 AM
      #11
    Green Broke
    The best thing about horses is that they forgive.. they don't dont ever forget. But I see what your saying I've already proved a barn full of people wrong about Chance but I think I still have more work a head of me.

    SpiritHorse - You've been a BIG part of that. You gave me quite a few P4's that I needed, that goes for Jenny too LOL :)

    Jiblet - I was in teh same position - I had NO idea that what I was doing to chance was considered abuse because I was around these people so long it became the normal thing. But Im glad I learned differently and found a lot softer and kinder ways to work with my horse in turn we are both happy. Thanks for the reply :)

    Solon - I've seen where that's happened, someone at my barn is going through that now and its kinda sad.. I thought that was the case at first but when Chance puts her head in my chest and just stays there half falling asleep.. I know theres deffinatly something there. Chance is one of the less affectionate mares so when she does show it I will drop everything I had planned just to enjoy it when she puts herself out there. I can be sitting on the ground in front of her and she would just hover her head right above me with her chin on my head just resting. When she sees me across the pasture and will stop eatting just to watch and see where im going and if I look like im coming to her, she goes out of her way and comes TO me. Its a great feeling know that she wants to be there. Also when ever she spooks on ground like if we are walking in a new area or a scary shadow moves weirdly she will stop right in her tracks no matter how "scared" she is to not run over me. Or if she really can't stand still then she will go around me. I think that in general takes a lot of a horse to think about the human even when they feel there life could be in danger. When people flat out tell me that Chance would probably fall apart if I wasnt around.. means something.

    But there are also times she could care less about me. Sometimes she sees me in teh pasture.. looks up .. and goes right back to her food... well that's what she thinks about me today :P

    That just got me thinking.
         
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        02-13-2010, 01:40 AM
      #12
    Green Broke
    I'm sorry but she wouldn't fall apart. I've seen horses in our barn go from one loving owner to the next. Horses adapt. It's what they do. It sounds like you are trying to work it out. But you've really got to take a good look if people close to you are telling you something's not right with the horse. They don't want you to get hurt.
         
        02-13-2010, 01:52 AM
      #13
    Green Broke
    I have at least 2 stories showing that its a possibility. Also seeing how she's worked with other people in saddle makes me wonder. She's done things to other riders she never even attempted with me. I mean other people CAN ride her safely, if there not trying to conqure her.. idk if you understand what I mean?? She will do anything in the world for you if your willing to be fair and understanding about it.. not shove her over the cliff when she's just brave enough to look over.

    Im sure she would adapt no doubt.. but the mental damage that would probably do to her. She's already gone through enough of that. If it does come time to sell like its forced.. it would be a long thought out decision. LOL I have been called over protective but I guess it came with the package.

    No ones really told me something wasn't right. Take that back, I mean yes in the begining people were telling me to put her down, to sell her etc. My mom is still on that side because she she only looks at the past and refuses to think Chance will change. People who see her now encourage me to keep at it .. and that I've come to far to just stop now. Etc. Im determined to bring her over this one last steep hill. Im pretty sure once I get her there we wont have much else to worry about.

    OH and about the body protector thing, I am seriously considering one for jumping.
         
        02-13-2010, 02:04 AM
      #14
    Weanling
    Yay go HAF!

    Chance has become quite the celebrity on the forum, if only she knew
         
        02-13-2010, 03:17 AM
      #15
    Trained
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    I've already proved a barn full of people wrong about Chance
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    I get complimented on well we work together when she's being good.
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    I know I can get her past that huge road block..
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    Im sure others could do it faster then I could but I want to be the one to finish her.
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    Pictures to show what I can and have done with her[riding wise]
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    To me it would feel like I put all the hard work into it for nothing.
    The only thing I got out of this thread was the overwhelming feeling that you are only doing this to 'prove' something. You want to stick it to the people who told you that you couldn't do it.

    That is NOT the right mentality to have when training a horse, especially one with issues like Chance. That attitude is how people get hurt.

    I seriously cringe when I see one of your posts now. I just know it will be the same things over again. It's like a car crash - I know I won't like what I see but I can't look away. I just hope it doesn't end up like a car crash.

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    I also can't stand people who sell horses only because they need something to get them further...
    That's funny, I can't stand people who keep a horse out of pride, ego, or stubbornness. I also can't stand people who refuse to sell horses to someone more capable when they can't handle the problems they have. I can't stand the fact they don't understand it is doing the horse NO FAVOURS.

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    but the mental damage that would probably do to her.
    And my only thoughts on this are:

    1. RUBBISH.

    2. EGO, EGO, EGO.

    No horse will turn into a quivering, broken, mentally damaged wreck from being sold to a well picked home. They DO turn into mentally damaged wrecks when people refuse to acknowledge that they aren't the one most suitable and find the person who is suitable.
         
        02-13-2010, 05:35 AM
      #16
    Lis
    Yearling
    Don't just get it for jumping, get it for just riding. I wore mine when I was just going in the school especially when I was loaning my second loan horse because he wasn't completely safe but I even wore it when I was on the old horses that would rather die before letting you hurt yourself because things go wrong and if Chance is worse in the winter then you need one.
         
        02-13-2010, 06:29 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    WILDSPOT- that was a brilliant post and I agree with everything you said completly.

    I have sold a few horses due to growing out of them ability wise. I like knowing that they are going to teach someone else what they've taught me.

    Also, a couple of years ago I met this lady, she had this beautiful black horse, we became friends of some sort and she offered for me to ride him.

    She told me how she aquired this beautiful yet damaged horse.. through an auction where she watched him suffer at the hands of unforgiving people.

    I started riding this horse and I adored him but as time went by I decided he was just too dangerous, he got worse and worse and his owner tried everything to help him. No such luck.

    The day his fate was decided was the day he lunged at her and ripped right through her shirt and through the skin on her chest.

    There was no more black horse after that day. He went to greener pastures where there will be no more suffering for him or the people around him.

    Just something to think about. The things you want may not always be right.
         
        02-13-2010, 07:17 AM
      #18
    Green Broke
    Wild-spot... The reason I posted this was because I wanted to clear things up about Chance because I know a lot of people were just going off what others had were commenting not actually looking at what I was saying. I didnt say she would turn into a quivering mess.. you kinda over exagerated what I said. But im not going to sit here and try and convince you. She would adapt in time im sure with teh right owner who would be willing to take time with her and learn how she works rather just look at her as any other horse they can do anything with, that's what will get you in trouble with her. I mean once you get past her shell she will let you do anything with her honestly. I can lead her by her tail, legs, mane chin LOL Slide of any part of her.. and stand on her and like an amazing horse she is she will tolerate it as long as I want her 2. She's become a great horse compared to when I first got her. I wont forget that.

    So people who are saying I can't handle her ... she was 1000x worse when I got her and I was the only one who could handle her except for this acception of this one man who came out to the pasture with me to get her because she was bolting when you would put the lead rope on and I needed someone strong to actually stand there ground and not get dragged LOL But other then that I did most of the work on her because everyone else only made her worse.

    I mean I rode this mare bridleless lol I have a clip as well.

    Sally- Lol well it might not be the best thing.
    Lis- You make a good point. Ill look into one.
         
        02-13-2010, 07:28 AM
      #19
    Foal
    Kudos to you for learning and improving and communicating with the horse. It's so rewarding to actually start to understand a horse and be able to have the horse understand you. The team work makes all the work work worthwhile.

    To me, the finished product is not as important as how you get there. And it doesn't matter how long it takes, because it's an on-going learning experience always. And that is the best thing of all.

    So don't let others discourage you, as long as your relationship with this horse makes you happy
         
        02-13-2010, 07:49 AM
      #20
    Lis
    Yearling
    I know I sound like I'm nagging but it only takes one buck or spook to do some serious damage and I'm speaking from experience as I told you. Keep us updated on your progress.
         

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