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    01-13-2009, 11:52 AM
  #1
Foal
speeds up when cantering full arena

(i ride english)When I canter my horse, I usually do it on half of the arena, and is I very nice and relaxed on it..like a rocking horse. When I go from the circle to the whole arena, he gets fast and usually breaks into a trot. He also speeds up on the straight. I am going to be in a show in mid febuary and was wondering how could I help him canter a full arena like he canters the half arena. I need him relaxed and smooth on the full arena.
Thanks!
     
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    01-13-2009, 01:05 PM
  #2
Trained
Lots of pull and release. When he speeds up pull him down and then release as SOON as he slows, when he moves out again repeat. It works wonders.
     
    01-13-2009, 04:04 PM
  #3
Showing
How old is the horse? How much training has he had? It almost sounds like he gets off balance. You want to try to rock him back and engage him. Push him forward with your leg but keep that forwardness in your hand and ask him to bounce that energy back into his hind end. I'm already realizing how hard its going to be try to explain that on here

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Also keep in mind that those type of problems are rider related. A mix of something you are doing (you didn't realise you are doing) and a lack of proper gradual training. We have allllll been there. That's why riding is such a challenge.

Do you have access to a trainer? Would you be able to take a few lessons to work the basic kincks out?
     
    01-13-2009, 09:29 PM
  #4
Foal
He is 21 but in pretty good shape. This is not a new thing. He has done this ever since I can remember. Out of a month, half of our rides are good canters. The last time I rode him on the rail all the way around the arena at a canter was a month ago. I started canter cirlces for half of the arena to work on his balance and his self carrige, and has work wonderfully. He just really enjoys speed ( I know you wouldnt think that because he is 'old') When we do get on the straight for the whole arena, I can feel his legs do some kind of weird think like maybe he is extending his stride or something, then breaks into his bumpy fast trot. Would it work if I just ride him on the cirlce he is on now then increase it to ride the whole arena?? Thanks!
     
    01-13-2009, 09:33 PM
  #5
Showing
Yes, make sure you squeeze left & right (not see-sawing; just little squeezing, then release)- it really works. Half-halt.
     
    01-13-2009, 10:14 PM
  #6
Foal
Does he normally break the canter when he goes into the corner, or on the rail?
     
    01-13-2009, 11:12 PM
  #7
Trained
This is a really common thing for horses to do. On the circle, they can rely on a bit of bend and flexion to keep themselves balanced, but on the long side they get straight, drop a shoulder and start running on the forehand.
To correct this DO NOT pull. This will make your horse run faster, put him more on the forehand and put his nose behind the vertical - all things that we don't want.
Instead, we correct the horse with figures and our leg and seat aids. On a circle, work on transitions in the canter, making the stride shorter and longer WITHOUT using your reins. Really feel that as you apply leg and follow with your seat, your horse moves forward and when you half halt by bracing your back, your horse comes back. In the shortening of the stride, you will need to brace your back, and add leg to keep the canter happening and really ride the canter to keep the impulsion. When you have control over the canter stride on a circle, then go down the long side and when he starts running, immediately turn him onto a circle (don't pull him onto the circle! Use your body aids to turn him!) And then again start half halting and balancing the canter back, and when it is balanced go down the long side. Again if he gets unbalanced, turn again onto a circle and repeat. Eventually on the long sides you will just be able to apply a half halt and he will come back to you.
Good luck!
     
    01-14-2009, 01:40 AM
  #8
Yearling
Anebel, I love you. Lol! You stole the words out of my mouth.

Pulling and releasing isn't going to teach him to balance on his own. Some horses rush on straight aways because they're hot--mine does. Just starts as nice canter.... extended canter.... hand gallop and then crap, gallop! Loves the straight. Like Anebel said, once you have control of his canter, take him down the straight--and then circle when he thinks he's just going to run off with you.

Another little trick I like to do is 'rounded squares'. Inside of working in circles all the time, see if you can work in a square-circle, where the lines are straight until you bend to go in a new direction. For me, this help hot horses realize that straight lines do not mean an area where they will be uninterrupted to pick up speed!
     
    01-16-2009, 01:00 AM
  #9
Weanling
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Originally Posted by mayfieldk    
Another little trick I like to do is 'rounded squares'. Inside of working in circles all the time, see if you can work in a square-circle, where the lines are straight until you bend to go in a new direction. For me, this help hot horses realize that straight lines do not mean an area where they will be uninterrupted to pick up speed!

Thanks for such a great idea. I will definitely have to try this with my gleding. He is hot, and young, and green, and most definitely unbalanced! Geez what a combination. Square circles, I would never of thought of those. Can't wait to try it out.
     
    01-17-2009, 05:11 AM
  #10
Yearling
I have one just like that. ;) Just realize you CAN teach them to be calm, and stay calm even when they get unbalanced! Keep working at it and eventually you'll build the muscle and confidence in him. ;)
     

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