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    07-19-2011, 12:46 AM
  #1
Yearling
Smile Standie won't jump.

Hey,
I have a 4 nearly 5 year old standardbred that was rescued from the racetrack. She is/was a trotter and we can canter (YAY) she is very quiet but does get fired up when were riding. We seem to have an issue that she wont jump. She will walk and trot over poles on the ground and nothing else, she will walk through everything else, I have tried trotting over the jump putting poles in front of the jump but it doesn't make a difference.
Any hints or tips?
Thanks a heap :)
     
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    07-19-2011, 02:56 AM
  #2
Foal
More than likely, she is just not interested in jumping. I have an OTTB who will leap over ground poles if they are close enough together, rather than take the effort to pick up his feet enough to just trot over them..... I would guess he would like to have some jumping in his future.
     
    07-19-2011, 04:59 AM
  #3
Yearling
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Originally Posted by tblver    
More than likely, she is just not interested in jumping. I have an OTTB who will leap over ground poles if they are close enough together, rather than take the effort to pick up his feet enough to just trot over them..... I would guess he would like to have some jumping in his future.
Is there any way to make her more interested? Thanks :)
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    07-19-2011, 06:50 AM
  #4
Banned
Can you clarify for me what she is doing when asked to go over an elevated pole? She is simply not jumping but she is trotting/walking over it fine (though the word through makes me thinks she knocks it down)? That is how I read it.

BTW, welcome to the forum.
     
    07-19-2011, 07:13 AM
  #5
Trained
How balanced is she under saddle? She may not be balanced enough. More ground poles, circles, serpentines. When you go back to jumping, only lift the pole off the ground the tiniest amount (like not even 15cm) and when she is confident over that - and spreads of that height - and ONLY THEN, do you move up the height.

I had a pony that was balanced on the flat but would not jump. He had sore feet and once we sorted that out expected it to hurt so didn't want to. We started small and by the time I had to sell him (got too tall to ride a 12.1hh pony) he was jumping 90cm confidently. He and I learned together, which is something I would not recommend for ANYONE! It worked for us but I was already pretty confident over small jumps and my position was pretty good. We spent a LONG time concentrating on small stuff before we started going bigger.

It's probably not the answer you want, but GET LESSONS. The best way to know what she's doing and why is to have someone experienced on the ground watching.

I don't know you, I haven't seen you ride and I haven't seen photos, but I would say that you're probably not riding her forward enough. Most jumping problems stem from the rider.
     
    07-19-2011, 11:56 PM
  #6
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
Can you clarify for me what she is doing when asked to go over an elevated pole? She is simply not jumping but she is trotting/walking over it fine (though the word through makes me thinks she knocks it down)? That is how I read it.

BTW, welcome to the forum.
Thanks, and she just walks/trots through it making no effort to jump, so yes she knocks the pole down.
     
    07-19-2011, 11:58 PM
  #7
Yearling
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Originally Posted by blue eyed pony    
How balanced is she under saddle? She may not be balanced enough. More ground poles, circles, serpentines. When you go back to jumping, only lift the pole off the ground the tiniest amount (like not even 15cm) and when she is confident over that - and spreads of that height - and ONLY THEN, do you move up the height.

I had a pony that was balanced on the flat but would not jump. He had sore feet and once we sorted that out expected it to hurt so didn't want to. We started small and by the time I had to sell him (got too tall to ride a 12.1hh pony) he was jumping 90cm confidently. He and I learned together, which is something I would not recommend for ANYONE! It worked for us but I was already pretty confident over small jumps and my position was pretty good. We spent a LONG time concentrating on small stuff before we started going bigger.

It's probably not the answer you want, but GET LESSONS. The best way to know what she's doing and why is to have someone experienced on the ground watching.

I don't know you, I haven't seen you ride and I haven't seen photos, but I would say that you're probably not riding her forward enough. Most jumping problems stem from the rider.
Thanks, I am pretty sure im riding her forward enough as she doesn't refuse she just knocks it down. I will spend some time doing more circle work with her and serpentines to get her more balanced.
Thanks for the advice :)
     
    07-20-2011, 12:04 AM
  #8
Trained
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Originally Posted by CurlyIsASpecialStandie    
Thanks, and she just walks/trots through it making no effort to jump, so yes she knocks the pole down.
A lot of standardbreds do this. They are trained not to jump, EVER, under any circumstances, by their racing trainers. I don't know about Standies where you are but certainly where I am this is the case - it is VERY dangerous to have a horse that jumps in harness! People and horses get seriously injured and even killed when the horses jump with a cart attached.

Is there anywhere you can access with some small fallen logs that has safe footing? She can't go through a log, she has to go over it - it's one of the methods I tried to get my old Standie to jump.

How heavy are your poles? I have a friend whose horse just goes through the plastic poles but won't hit wood ones because the wooden poles having more substance, it hurts to hit them. They learn pretty quick to be careful.

Something that worked really well for me was proper cavalletti, with the X's at the sides. They can't knock them over so they have to go over them. My old Standie responded really well to this method.

There are as many different ways of training horses as there are horse-and-rider combinations. I still stand by my suggestion that you get lessons if you're not already taking them, though, because a good coach will be able to tell you a) if you and your horse are ready, and b) how to go about getting the horse to jump.

Edit; and they don't have to refuse for them not to be forward enough! I had a pony that rarely if ever refused and no matter what, he would NEVER be technically forward enough, ALWAYS cat-leaped, and nearly always put in a little extra half-stride. He was no hunter jumper, but he was an amazing little showjumper, incredibly honest and bold. I miss that pony, he was so much fun.
     
    07-20-2011, 12:33 AM
  #9
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by blue eyed pony    
A lot of standardbreds do this. They are trained not to jump, EVER, under any circumstances, by their racing trainers. I don't know about Standies where you are but certainly where I am this is the case - it is VERY dangerous to have a horse that jumps in harness! People and horses get seriously injured and even killed when the horses jump with a cart attached.

Is there anywhere you can access with some small fallen logs that has safe footing? She can't go through a log, she has to go over it - it's one of the methods I tried to get my old Standie to jump.

How heavy are your poles? I have a friend whose horse just goes through the plastic poles but won't hit wood ones because the wooden poles having more substance, it hurts to hit them. They learn pretty quick to be careful.

Something that worked really well for me was proper cavalletti, with the X's at the sides. They can't knock them over so they have to go over them. My old Standie responded really well to this method.

There are as many different ways of training horses as there are horse-and-rider combinations. I still stand by my suggestion that you get lessons if you're not already taking them, though, because a good coach will be able to tell you a) if you and your horse are ready, and b) how to go about getting the horse to jump.

Edit; and they don't have to refuse for them not to be forward enough! I had a pony that rarely if ever refused and no matter what, he would NEVER be technically forward enough, ALWAYS cat-leaped, and nearly always put in a little extra half-stride. He was no hunter jumper, but he was an amazing little showjumper, incredibly honest and bold. I miss that pony, he was so much fun.
Thanks for the ideas again :) It makes sense that they are trained not to jump, she must be wondering what on earth I want her to do :P I am going to pony club in august and I had a riding instructor but she has gone on an overseas trip so we need to find another one.
     
    07-20-2011, 12:45 AM
  #10
Started
A 4 year old horse should not be jumping. I would wait until she's about 6 and then try it again.

My guy doesn't jump, either. I think it's partly because he just doesn't like it, but I have a strong feeling that his last owner tried to jump him way too young. He was barely 6 when I first looked at him, and they said he was supposed to be an eventer but was no good at it. Plus they jumped him over barrels when I was there. Just shows that rushing young horses isn't worth it in the long run.

You may have to find some other activity that you both enjoy if she really doesn't want to jump. It's all about compromise.
     

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