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        01-22-2008, 07:36 PM
      #1
    Foal
    start lunging . help ?

    Okay, well, I have a 10 yr old pinto , Tomboy. I'm 15 and i've trained him a little this summer.. I got him halter trained, leading, hoove cleaning, etc. I would love to get him into profesional trainning but, the money isn't there since we barely have enough to keep a horse. Soo .. When the weather gets better, I would like to start lunging him, and gradually get him lunging with a saddle. He's a great learner and a very trustworthy horse. I, myself am still learning about the whole training. I know lots, but, I think it wouldnt hurt to know more. So, i'm used to lunging fully trained horses, who actually know what to do. So, how could I get Tomboy start lunging on a lunge line without him bolting off or doing crazy stuff like that ?

    Thanks,
    Alysha =)
         
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        01-22-2008, 08:32 PM
      #2
    Foal
    Just go ahead and lunge him. If he bolts, he bolts. It's important that he makes that "mistake." If you stay calm, and just let him do it, he'll understand that what he did was unnecessary, and that you're not afraid of it, so he shouldn't either. If he freaks out a bit, he's gotten it out of his system, and he'll learn that the lounge line is nothing scary and nothing to be worried about.

    People try too hard to prevent a "mistake" from happening at all. It makes it easier for you, but what does you horse learn? Nothing.

    And, of course, do this the first time in a round pen, or arena of some sort. If you have none, then just do it in an area that both he and you are comfortable in.
         
        01-22-2008, 10:32 PM
      #3
    Foal
    I do agree with October, but try not to put yourself in a dangerous position. Here are some tips, you don't have to use them but if you do they will help you.

    1-I recomend using a rope halter. It has better pressure points to it, you can teach him to respect you without hurting him. They're great for groundwork to, as they have just enough bite.

    2-Remember, you are doing this to train him and condition him, not let him run around in circles without any form od discipline. I have a colt right now that I'm working with, and I accomplish a lot more when I don't go faster than a collected trot and keep him in a small circle. I always keep his nose towards me so he has to use himself correctly and his attention is on me.

    3-When you lunge him, start with him facing you. Then give him a tap on the shoulder with your whip, and continue tapping harder until he moves away. Once he moves away, step to his hindquarters and get him going. When you are ready to stop, say whoa and put pressure on the lungeline until he stops. Then make him come to you before you do anything else.

    4-Don't let him just drag you around like a dummy. If he starts pulling on you, don't just continually pull back like you're playing tug of war. Give him repeated tugs, and steadily tug harder until he gives in and stays on the circle you want.

    5-Keep you lessons engaging, rather than just going around in circles one way the whole time. Do plenty of direction changes, and occasionally set up some poles to go over on the circle or anything else you can think of.

    I hope these help you, this is what I do with my horses and it works very well. I recommend learning to ground drive him also, this is a vital excersize to teach him to steer and learn forward motion commands before you swing a leg over his back. Have fun training him, and good luck!
         
        01-23-2008, 06:43 AM
      #4
    Showing
    The only problem if he bolts and find out it's OK with you it may become a bad habit. Every time you lunge he may start bolting. What you can do is make him face you and turn other direction if he's trying to bolt.
         
        01-23-2008, 08:06 AM
      #5
    Foal
    Just keep him in a small circle at a trot, I didnt mean let him bolt, but don't freak out if something does happen
         
        01-23-2008, 10:16 AM
      #6
    Showing
    Actually bolting is not the worst thing. What about if horse gets aggressive towards the handler? I mean trying to run through? I've seen situations like that - wasn't great....
         
        01-23-2008, 10:49 AM
      #7
    Foal
    re: Lunging Help

    Longe line training is my one of my favorite things ever. It's a lot to explain in a small space like a forum. Here is a link to some articles I've written on it. Hope this helps!

    http://professionalhorse.blogspot.co...-shooting.html

    Deanna
         
        01-23-2008, 11:57 AM
      #8
    Showing
    I don't like an idea even leading horse in chain. Pulling hard with chain while lunging can make lots of harm (especially with novice person). Although it's just my opinion...
         
        01-23-2008, 09:15 PM
      #9
    Foal
    In the wrong hands a chain can be a mess. I saw a horse that was abused that way, so I see where you are coming from. A bit can also be dangerous in the wrong hands.

    I have been hurt by horses in the past pulling on me, (especially working with studs) and I have had great success with the chain. We only get one body, and need to protect it.

    I believe handlers should learn to use it as a tool, and not as a torture device.
         
        01-23-2008, 10:16 PM
      #10
    Showing
    These tips above are all very good, but I just want to mention:

    When lunging, don't look at the horse's face or neck, rather keep your eyes, hips and shoulders pointed behind the girth... think of your eyes, hips and shoulders (body position) as the driving force to the horse, the same as your seat and hands would be when riding. When the driving force is applied to the face, as when you're using your hands to "whoa" when riding, the horse will stop, and move away from the "pressure". When the driving force is behind the girth, as your legs when riding, the horse will go forwards. This works especially well when first starting to lunge. Remember, horses respond to body language much more than us humans, and are very receptive to the smallest of body movements.
    I was told this once and experimented with it, and sure enough it worked!
         

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