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post #11 of 29 Old 01-06-2009, 08:31 PM
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I had a friend that boarded at the same place as me. He had a baby that I halter broke for him. I had no clue what I was doing but it worked, I did a pony too... Actually, I completely broke that pony to ride now that I think of it, but it was only 12.2 hands so I was big enough to manhandle it although it never tried anything.

Anyway, my friend... he had this really pretty paint that was almost 3 and about 16 hands. He told me it had been saddled and had been ridden. So I started saddling it and longing it, it was wierd because I would tighten the girth and the horse would go down to his knees for a minute. And then when I would ask him to walk he'd be all hunched up. I longed him before riding and then I would ride walk trot - it seemed like he had no idea what I wanted. After about 5 rides he had an explosion that scared the cahoonas out of me! we almost went through the fence. I rode him for about 2 months and then my friend... Good friend that he was, came out and asked how he was doing. And when I showed him... he was in shock. Do you know what he told me? The horse had never even been saddled! He had lied to me. What a pal..... Had I known that I would have done a lot of things differently. I could have really ruined that horse. And that horse could have ruined me!

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post #12 of 29 Old 01-06-2009, 09:14 PM
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Lets see if I can remember them all.

The first horse that I rode that was not all the way trained was a gray filly when I was 13. My dad had put about 20 days riding on her and then handed the reins to me to finish her. I wish I could have kept her. She had the best lope and could lope all day. I would start out from the house and make the "square" which was about 12 miles total. Loped the whole way and was barely breathing hard when we got back.

1-Then there was my bay horse Denny. He was the first one that I did all the training on.
2- A bay paint stud for a friend of mine.
3- A big red roan mare for a customer.
4- A little sorrel mare for a customer.
5- A big chesnut gelding for a customer. (boy could he jump)
6- Dobe, my gray mustang.
7- Jet, my apha that I sold to a friend of mine.
8- Koda, my bay mustang.

And I already have 3 more horses lined up that need to be trained. My Percheron stud, a sorrel filly out of a Dry Doc stud for my brother, and a big chesnut mare for a friend of mine.
There were several more that were less notable mixed in there as well. I have been training my own horses since I was 15.

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post #13 of 29 Old 01-07-2009, 02:03 AM
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well since i have had rebel since he was a little guy i did all his ground work and the first 10 rides on him but due to high school working a part time job i couldnt keep up on it so i sent him to a trainer. which to this day was the biggest mistake she trained him to do everything i wanted but kept insisting that he would make a great "Rope Horse" dont know why only cause he was fast i guess. but anyways she liked him so much that she did a great job and gave him back to me and never showed me his ques to get him to do the things she taught him. She seem to think i need to sell him to her cause he was "to much horse for me" :-xneedless to say i have spent the last 4 years retraining him so we're on the same page

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post #14 of 29 Old 01-07-2009, 02:17 AM
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I started my QH gelding as in I got him longing, saddled and bridled, I was the first one on his back etc, but then I had a trainer friend who I got to come out and work with he and I once a week.....she was a great help and he turned out awesome! I did the same with my Mustang mare. Although I've gotten Lily tacked up and used to all that, I'll probably have a trainer do most of the initial under saddle stuff because a) I don't bounce as well as I used to and b) she's a lot hotter/reactive than my first two. A full body cast doesn't sound like much fun
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post #15 of 29 Old 01-07-2009, 02:53 AM
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"my first post :)" I have trained a few but must have had really cooperative ones because I am stuck on the green broke 6y/o QH that I am on now. We trail rode all summer long, camping and traveling. Now that winter is here and I wanted to do some arena work with him he has started what "Amber" seems to be doing... getting stuck and refusing to move. He will lunge for a bit then just stop, totally ignoring me and the whip refusing to move. Same thing when I am on him, he will work fine for a while then decide that he is done and quit moving.. no amount of coaxing, spurs, whips (not used harshly) can get him to move. He never does this out on the trails. Any ideas how to get him moving when he does this?
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post #16 of 29 Old 01-07-2009, 07:04 AM
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Ok, first question.

I have 3 horses now, so I am gonna start with them. Our grey mare was barely halter broke- or should I say she would wear a halter that's it- when I got her, full grown and a food aggressive kicker. She is now being ridden, and when she got out recently I could lead her back to the barn with only my arm around her neck, no rope or halters or anything.
Our paint gelding definately came 'broke', but I fixed him. I wasn't told, but came to discover, he was stone deaf. I retrained him to touch cues, and he also walked across a feild and busy road back to the barn with only an arm around his neck now. He had the issue you are talkin about locking up and not wanting to move.
My stud colt came wearing a halter, and that's it. But he is only a year and a half, so I haven't roundpenned or worked with him with a saddle yet, but he picks his feet up and gets sprayed with water and we go for long walks now, junk like that. He also was led by only the neck by a stranger, a police officer who stopped to help us.

Then there was our beach pony, abused and with the halter cutting into her head when we got her, and now she is a pampered pet doin pony parties for the nicest guy who works with the masons or something. Then there was other rescues we had that came away far better trained than they were when we got here. I saw too many so-called professionals seriously abusing horses, I rather do my own.



Now, the second question. For one thing, There must be a reason WHY the horse is doin that, your job is to find out why. I don't mean this the way it is gonna sound, apologies ahead of time, but if both your horses are doin it I think it mite be something you are doing. Without being there to see what is goin on, I can't really help you. But you need a horses' full cooperation, so you need to find out why. I can't tell you why, without more info. But I can tell you this. If a horse locks up on you, and won't move forward, a quick way to get them moving again is to turn thier heads to one side, and try to get them to step to the side by pulling on them, tryin to get them to shift thier weight to one leg. Once you get them moving PERIOD, g get them foin in the direction you want. I would suspect that they give other cues before they lock up, other signs of resistance before it reaches that point.

Not a big fan of lunging, btw, if you do it more than about 4 or 5 times, the horse learns to tune you out, plus trotting in small circles alot is very tiring and bad on the horse, if overdone.

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With my current gelding I have done 100% of the work with him. He is still a work in progress since he is only 4 and difficult.
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post #18 of 29 Old 01-07-2009, 08:37 PM
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I got mine when he was three, and he had about three months of training on him after he went to the track, so he was broke to ride, but a handful. Since then, I've pretty much trained him to do everything he can with help along the way from someone coaching me while I was on him.

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post #19 of 29 Old 01-07-2009, 09:26 PM
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My boy Sherman is two this monday!yayyy! but anyways I am not planning on breaking him till he is three, but I am going to be doing everything with him for a while then if he seems like he would do good in a certain discipline I might put him in a bit of training to finish him in a discipline.
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post #20 of 29 Old 01-09-2009, 08:22 PM
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What a good question!
With Bailey she was already backed and started when I got her as a 4y.o however I had to do a lot of retraining with her. She's an alpha mare and was a difficult ride. I ended up having her as a paddock mate on and off over the past 6 years... she's now in full work and loving it... had a major training change and is a new horse about it all.

Evo was my first official horse that I backed with the help of my best mate/instructor... I then ended up on crutches and so another friend started him for me. He's currently away right now learning how to school in a working frame etc.

Honey is the first horse that I've done it all on, and my favourite to ride. We walk and trot and are almost ready to canter. She's learning how to jump on the lunge over small obstacles (40cm if that) and we do pole work under saddle. Apart from my instructor/best mate being the first up on her back, I've done everything else and taught her all she knows. Honeys only problem is that she's now exclusive to me, and fidgets when other people go to get up, but is an angel once they are up. Recently had a first timer sit up on her back that froze up there and she just stood there sundozing... not bad for a horse that's only had 3months under saddle!

I'm all about working with my horses myself (with instruction)... its all good and dandy sending your horse off for professional training but at the end of the day, you have to be able to ride it yourself... as I have a knee injury, I'm naturally not the strongest in my lower leg, and so sending Evo away to my best mate was a bit of a think for me, as she's very strong in her legs. However she's done wonders with him, and I don't regret sending him there, as he's learnt how to do things a little more differently so I can still school without breaking my knee trying lol!
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