Originally Posted by Hrt4Dressage
Originally Posted by mlkarel2010
Yeah, it might have some difference to do with it. But a lot of people's method's are different though and a lot of the time you have to change for the horse. But I did leave out the huge point of doing your exercise first. That was a HUGE part!
Absolutely... but there is a large difference in the western pleasure world vs the english world on training tactics... I agree you do need to change depending on the horse, however I still feel like using the reins without the aide of the leg will result in flexion in the jaw and the base of the neck. The horse isnt so much "round" as his head is just down. Using the reins to achieve a headset does just that -- it sets the head, not the body.
I only don't use the leg cues at the stand still when they are just starting to learn about giving vertically, and then I use legs when I ask for them to be on the bit. Just to clear that up :) So they do round their backs. Honestly, when I start doing this the horses have more of an English style headset than a WP one. They lower their head in their own time when they feel comforatable.
I believe there is a lot of differences between the western and english world, there's no doubt.
So, Amightytarzan5, don't worry about the angle of his neck yet, but I have a feeling he already has it down because he is a trail horse, but I could be wrong. But you will have to use your legs when you are moving to keep him going, and therefore he will start to round his back.
Hopefully that makes sense.