Well first off what kind of bit are you using on him? Is it a single jointed bit? Sometimes horses who need more tongue/bar relief will stick their noses out and sometimes will invert because the bit is bothering them. Have you looked in the Myler bits?
As of yesterday it was a single jointed loose ring snaffle.
Today I rode him in a french link loose ring snaffle and I *think* it was a lot better. It was probably poking his palate.
Originally Posted by mls
How old is this horse? He sounds like he is trying to find his balance.
He is 7. And yes he is still trying to find his balance.
Originally Posted by smrobs
If he is green and you have introduced direct contact to quickly or incorrectly, then that will cause him to begin "nosing through the bridle". I would start working him on a loose rein. Work with him at a standstill by applying pressure until he flexes at the poll and tucks his nose. In the beginning, even the smallest movement should be rewarded with release of pressure. Then begin working at a walk and asking for poll flexion for very short periods of time. Just keep working with this and don't move up to the next gait until they have it perfectly at the lower one. You can slowly build up the time that you ask for collection and they should maintain the flexed neck with very few problems. If you start to have an issue, go back to the last place that they were doing good and start again. Good luck.
I do mostly ride with a loose rein
He just kinda ... sticks it out there regardless of pressure. Well. I guess it depends. Sometimes he gives to the pressure sometimes he doesn't.
Originally Posted by PoptartShop
It could be the bit- a horse I used to ride always did this; it was because his mouth was uncomfortable with the bit he was using. Or, he just wasn't used to the contact & wanted to avoid it. However, I'd get his teeth looked at, & maybe try a different bit? It could be that he's green as well, though
Today he was better. We switched from a single joint to a french link so I think that may have been part of it.
Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove
Do you have any photos?
If he's doing what I -think- you mean, it's normal. Green horses aren't going to look as pretty as a horse that has been in training. Just leave his face alone and let him find balance himself.
How does he look on the lunge line?
He doesn't know how to lunge lmao. D: The one time he did do it was almost a year ago so that wouldn't really be accurate.
Photos for you. These are from when we were still at my old trainer's and he was in a single jointed full-cheek snaffle. We've improved quite a bit since then, but his nose still does this about half the time, and especially when we're going in a straight line.
Last summer (please excuse my godawful position.. my trainer decided to tell me to have my reins super-tight and my arms almost straight. I don't ride like that anymore, I assure you.)
Also last summer: