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post #11 of 19 Old 12-14-2008, 08:06 AM
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Does she knows how to follow or respond to the bit? Are you using your seat and hips-knees enough when you turn her around and ask forbending? :) If she's confused about following the bit to bend her neck, I'd look into how much she knows of the bit as well.. following the bit is pretty much the only thing a horse has to learn, the rest they already know.

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Thanks for all the replies.
I will definately work with getting her to respond a bit at a time even if she moves to start off with. And I will also try the treat between the front legs to stretch her back.
As for the chiropractor I really doubt that the problem is because she cant or because of pain. She just doesn't know what I am asking her to do. I also cant get a chiropractor or vet out cause my dad owns the horses and he wouldn't think that there is a point because she is fine otherwise so then its not a big deal. But like I said I am 99% sure its not a health problem so much as she is confused.
Thanks again for the advice. I really appreciate being able to ask a question and get lots of responces in such a short time.


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post #12 of 19 Old 12-14-2008, 08:46 AM
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rule out any pain issues first

if you have someone to give you a hand...
have someone hold up one of her front legs from the knee up and forwards..and while they hold it, slowly bring her head to the opposite direction have her hold it for a little while thn ask the person to slowly lower the leg back down. do this on both sides and slowly ask for more and more
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post #13 of 19 Old 12-14-2008, 08:49 AM
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If shes moving you could always put her up against a wall or a fence and turn he head the opposite. That way she can only move forward and backward. Which you can control with your legs and reins.

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post #14 of 19 Old 12-14-2008, 08:50 AM
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Generally

Always use soft hands nd rather ''nag'' on her to move for the preassure by just lightly ratle the rather loose rein untill she bends. If just half an inch in the right way, stop ratteling and praise. It will take a while but she'll soom learn to follow the very easy rattle ad you won't need to put a g. preasure in the rein.

Crow has learnt to lower his head that way; gentle ratteling on the leadrope/lunge line. No tiedowns needed ;)


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post #15 of 19 Old 12-14-2008, 10:30 PM Thread Starter
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She knows lots about leg pressure as I can ride her bareback with nothing on her head or neck. I can get her to move her hind end over as well as her front end over all with just my leg. Also if I'm useing my leg to get her to turn a circle she will always lead nose first.
As for a bit I actually use a hackamore on her because she doesn't respect a bit at all so I've always just neckreined her. I suppose I could put a bit on her just to work with the suppleness until she understands what I'm asking and then move on back to her hackamore.

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Generally

Always use soft hands nd rather ''nag'' on her to move for the preassure by just lightly ratle the rather loose rein untill she bends. If just half an inch in the right way, stop ratteling and praise. It will take a while but she'll soom learn to follow the very easy rattle ad you won't need to put a g. preasure in the rein.

Crow has learnt to lower his head that way; gentle ratteling on the leadrope/lunge line. No tiedowns needed ;)
Yay for no tie down :)
I always use a press and release which seems to work quite well. On my gelding I can get him to lower his head exactly where I want it by just lightly touching his mouth with a seesaw motion.
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post #16 of 19 Old 12-14-2008, 11:06 PM
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It definetly sounds like she just doesn't know how to listen to the bit.
The hackamore (referring to those with metal side pieces) has a curb effect and are just lousy to use for bending or flexing. :)

If you don't want to use a bit, side pulls or if you can find any riding cavessons (not those big, clumsy lunging cavesons but something with either a complete (padded) bikechain or an unleaded riding cavesson) has the same effect as a snaffle, and are good for bending and flexing.


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Ya you are definately right about the hackamore not being good for bending or flexing. :) Up until now it hasent mattered because I just ride for fun and so as long as she neck reins I just need something on her that can stop her. I think that seeing as how she stops so well with leg cues and the fact that there will be no where for her to run this winter I can use a bit on her and hopefully get her to respect it.
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Along with doing what everyone else said I would also work on lots of shoulder-ins, shoulder-outs, circles, etc undersaddle. I've noticed that since doing the shoulder-ins and outs my horse has become much more supple and he's a pretty stiff horse too.

Just work on lots of different bending exercises undersaddle and on the ground and your horse will eventually loosen up.

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post #19 of 19 Old 12-17-2008, 05:44 PM Thread Starter
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Well today was the first day that it wasnt -30 C (equal to -22 F) without windchill so I was outside working with the horses. I figured to start off with I would just work on the ground with my mare. I held some oats just in front of her leg close to the ground and she actually streched down quite nicely once I had her in the corner of her stall. I also held some oats beside her belly and she flexed her neck beautifully to eat it.
I met this lady once who had taught her horse to touch its belly when she would pull the horses tail towards its head. So I think I will do that to start off with and then once she has that down pat I will move to doing that when Im on her without useing the reins and then move on to useing the reins.
I'm very excited because knowing my mare she will be flexing her neck perfectly by spring (though if she isnt I'll be ok with wherever she is at).
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