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        04-02-2012, 09:30 PM
      #11
    Foal
    I like to go back to the ground work. What I would do is either use the mounting block or the fence and while on it use a whip to tap his hindquarters either way depending on what side you want to go to and make him stand where you would be able to get on. Wait a little while and if he moves just keep putting him back where you want him. He needs to learn that its not going to kill him to stand and wait. Here is a video that better explains. You don't have to use a war bridle, I didn't and it worked the same.

         
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        04-03-2012, 12:46 AM
      #12
    Weanling
    I just taught my horse to stand from the moment I got her. That is the first thing she learned. Ground tie! And here is how I taught her!

    I used a rope halter with a 12 ft lead.

    I would stop, face her, throw the line over her back, apply slight halter pressure and tell her to stand. Then walk away. If she followed me I snatcher her up and backed her up. Then I would bring her back to that spot, pet her apply pressure, say stand and leave again. Within 15 minutes I could walk circles around her.

    Soon she would stand there level headed even with a pile of second cutting in front of her (often left by other horses from being fed in that round pen) and not try to touch it. Now she ground ties anywhere. Even at the show grounds where there are no stalls and she had never been there before.

    So after she learned to ground tie I did everything with her, picked her feet, groomed saddled, and then practiced just standing above her on the step stool (some horses can be funny about things over their heads) and she did fine.

    When I felt it was time I started getting on her, and since she knew to stand so well it was no problem. She didn't move a muscle. And yes, that was her first time ever being sat on.

    So, it is all about the foundation. The key is consistancey.
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        04-03-2012, 02:02 AM
      #13
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by nherridge    
    I just taught my horse to stand from the moment I got her. That is the first thing she learned. Ground tie! And here is how I taught her!

    I used a rope halter with a 12 ft lead.

    I would stop, face her, throw the line over her back, apply slight halter pressure and tell her to stand. Then walk away. If she followed me I snatcher her up and backed her up. Then I would bring her back to that spot, pet her apply pressure, say stand and leave again. Within 15 minutes I could walk circles around her.

    Soon she would stand there level headed even with a pile of second cutting in front of her (often left by other horses from being fed in that round pen) and not try to touch it. Now she ground ties anywhere. Even at the show grounds where there are no stalls and she had never been there before.

    So after she learned to ground tie I did everything with her, picked her feet, groomed saddled, and then practiced just standing above her on the step stool (some horses can be funny about things over their heads) and she did fine.

    When I felt it was time I started getting on her, and since she knew to stand so well it was no problem. She didn't move a muscle. And yes, that was her first time ever being sat on.

    So, it is all about the foundation. The key is consistancey.
    I trained my dog the same way (almost). I can tell her to stay and leave for a few minutes and she'll be in the same spot when I get back. I will definitely try this with Koby! Thanks!
         
        04-03-2012, 02:09 AM
      #14
    Banned
    My TB had the same issue as they are not taught to stand for mounting on the track. I stood him into a corner, nose almost touching the wall.
         
        04-03-2012, 03:44 AM
      #15
    Foal
    I had a 16.2 paint bully that I was training like this. She would move when she thought you were going to mount she would breeze past you and nearly run you over if you showed her the halter. Just general rotten behavior.
    To get her to stand while I mounted for the first three day I simply bounced on the ground next to her put my foot in the stirrup and stood in it without swinging all the way over.

    Bounce/Jump next to the horse pulling on the saddle just a little, enough they have to have all four feet on the ground and paying attention, if the horse walks off you travel with him until he doesnt move when you jump. Once he has stood for you to jump once walk him around a round pen or in a fair sized circle to get him thinking. Then repeat. Once your horse stands three times in a row bounce with your foot in the stirrup, make sure you are somewhere he can't take off to far with you only half hanging on. Do this two or three times before completely standing in the stirrup. This will get their 'shy to the side' to not be such a problem however they might still try to walk off.
    Walking off. If your horse is heavy on the bit (doesn't like to respond or puts up a fight) and doesn't stop well start by doing half halts. Ask him to stop two or three times by checking (pulling on the reins gently but all the way a few times) if he doesn't want to stop then put him in a corner. Let him walk himself to the corner but don't let him turn. When he stops trying to move from the corner, or the straight rail whichever you prefer to use, ask him to back one or two steps, release, and then let him walk out. You also want to make sure he submits to a flex. This is where you pull the horses head to his side until he stops spinning and drops his head relaxing slightly. This flexing to the side also helps in training a one reined stop. One way that might help train the flex if he is not very comfortable is to involve treats, once his head is almost to his side reach down and offer a treat once he takes it release the reins.

    For mounting so that your toe doesnt poke him, stand so that your left side is against his and you are looking towards the saddle/flanks. Turn the stirrup around to slide your foot in as you stand in the stirrup press your knee against the saddle pushing your heal out so that you can turn your foot the other way then swing your other leg over. This can be done in one quick movement but it also helps teach a rider to pause as they are mounting to let their horses balance include their weight.

    These are just some response and softness exercises I use on the horses I train. I hope they are of some use.
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