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    05-08-2011, 08:28 AM
  #1
Green Broke
Stopping bucking?

Ok so I don't know if I missed a previous thread, any links to old ones are welcome too. I'm just wondering what exactly to do to discourage a horse from bucking. I get the whole disengage the hindquarters but I thought that was more to kind of avoid it. I don't really have any experience with bucking. My first was a couple of days ago on someone elses horse, I was aware that he did them when first going into the canter. The one he did with me wasn't small but not huge just average. Anyway he was doing it to avoid having to canter. I just kept pushing for the canter. I never actually got him to do a canter no matter how much pressure I put on him he simply wouldn't do it. Even his owner had a bit of trouble getting one out of him and the one she did get was very lazy and not long. Sorry a bit off track so what to do stop bucking? Thanks
     
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    05-08-2011, 11:34 AM
  #2
Green Broke
Horse buck for a lot of reasons, from saddle pain to just wanting to play instead of work. Try lots of practice involving up/down transitions to get/keep the horse focused, do not ever give in, and end on a good note, even if it brief. Repeat and repeat more. With consistency, I haven't seen a horse yet that didn't eventually learn that while being ridden, it's work, not play time.
As far as avoiding the buck, make sure you keep the head up at the first sign the head is going down...it's very hard for a horse to buck when its head is up.
Good luck and be safe.
     
    05-08-2011, 10:33 PM
  #3
Started
First make sure that your horse is not in pain! Either from back, teeth, hooves, ulcers, saddle.

If you then realize you're working with a horse who is very lazy, and most any other horse, the solution is FORWARD MOTION! Push, push, push the horse forward! You can use your leg, spur, crop or reins to encourage him. There's no need to get aggressive but a horse can not buck if he is cantering/galloping. It takes some guts to do it. Believe me, I worked with a horse that would buck when asked to lope because he was extremely lazy and did not like to work. My instructor made me gallop the piss and vinegar out of him. And it honestly made sense when you do it because when you're riding him, there is no possibly way he can do anything more than kick out to the side.
     
    05-08-2011, 11:00 PM
  #4
Green Broke
I agree that a horse that is in forward motion will have a hard time bucking, but I don't think it is impossible. If you are going to push your horse into a gallop, be ready for a sudden stop or turn which could be followed by a buck. It takes a little to get to know when the horse is getting ready for a buck. The head does go downward before. When you learn what to look for, you can correct the horse beforehand.

If you can catch the horse before the buck starts, turn the head to one side or get the head to come up. Both make it hard for them to buck. Make the horse go in a tight circle which also makes it difficult for them to buck.

Causes of a horse bucking could be like the others have said but also could be from them stretching out. If the horse is in a small pen or stall all the time, they can't really stretch their back our rear out. When a horse only does it when asking for a lope/canter, I think it is either they are refusing to go forward(lazy) or is stretching out. For me, I discipline those horses by making it work, doing several circles in both directions, then get the horse to go back to the lope/canter right away.
     
    05-08-2011, 11:10 PM
  #5
Started
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Originally Posted by usandpets    
I agree that a horse that is in forward motion will have a hard time bucking, but I don't think it is impossible. If you are going to push your horse into a gallop, be ready for a sudden stop or turn which could be followed by a buck. It takes a little to get to know when the horse is getting ready for a buck. The head does go downward before. When you learn what to look for, you can correct the horse beforehand.
Yes, I also agree with this. For the sudden stopping and other tricks. Just more practice doing it allows you to read your horse and listening while you're pushing him forward as to when he's muscles tense up before he's about to break to a trot or a dead halt or breaking off to the side.
     
    05-08-2011, 11:28 PM
  #6
Showing
The best way to prevent bucking is just to be consistent and fair with your horse and to properly prepare them for what you expect them to do. Don't push them to do more than they are ready for and capable of. In my experience, a young horse (that isn't already a habitual bucker) is most often prone to buck on either the 3rd ride or just going in to the 2nd week of work.

Just make sure that you give them adequate time under saddle before asking for anything too strenuous; keep them at a walk for a while and then at a trot for a while before asking for the lope, let them warm up and relax for the first few minutes of a ride. To just jump on a fresh greenie and lope them right off is asking for them to throw an "I'm feeling good" buck.

In the event that you do end up with one that bucks, the quickest way to stop them is with the one-rein stop. Don't ever use both reins because that gives them something to brace against and buck harder (think saddle broncs at the rodeo, that's what they use the bronc halter for). If they are supple to lateral bending, then you can get their neck bent and their hindquarters disengaged and many will stop bucking pretty quickly after they because they get off balance. Even if they keep bucking a little, if they are bent, that takes away much of their power and makes it easier to stick with them.
     
    05-08-2011, 11:41 PM
  #7
Foal
Sounds like he just has no respect. Horses have defiant bucks. Very lazy and just almost trying to intimidate. Definitely put him in a round pen and chase him around to canter. Keep doing this until he stops trying to kick at you or buck. Just earn some respect and show him who is boss. Before it gets ugly and someone gets hurt
     
    05-09-2011, 12:35 AM
  #8
Yearling
Sometimes we expect bucks, other times we don't. I had a gelding once that bucked every time I asked him to move forward. The more I asked him to move, the harder/more aggressive the buck. He was aggravated with me for making him go forward, and I was making it worse by asking him with more "umph" to get moving. Sometimes a horse will hop because we tap it with a crop, and as "punishment" for it hopping we hit it harder with a crop. I've seen someone do it before. You know what the horse does? He bucks harder. While I think forward movement would be a good way to get a horse's mind off of bucking, I think sometimes it's best to think of "sideways" movement, or a circle. Not a tight circle like you'd do with the one-rein-stop, but if your horse is giving you aggravated bucks because he doesn't want to work, trot him in tight circles and bend him around your leg - get him thinking, but don't aggravate him by asking harder for the same thing that caused the buck in the first place.
     
    05-09-2011, 02:24 AM
  #9
Green Broke
Thanks for all the replys.
Just to fill you in this horse I was talking about. He is 18 yr old and by far no greenie. He was very well warmed up. He is a bit on the chubby side due to recovering from a recentish injury and the people who were leasing him (an older couple) eventually found him to be too much for them so he was left out in the paddock more and more. My instructor has only had him back for about a week or so now. She said normally he is a good horse once he realises your not going to let him get away with it, you just have to be firm. She said he normally just does a couple of small bucks in at the beginning of the first canter to put you off but soon realises its not working and stops. I thinks its mostly due to the people who just had him let him kind of put it over them so he is just trying us too. She said generally he is a really nice horse he's just big and they (being older) didn't want to risk possibly getting hurt.
     
    05-09-2011, 06:36 AM
  #10
Green Broke
I forgot to add this didn't start after his injury from what I know he has done this for awhile.
     

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