okay i really appreicate everyones help. I want to get him used to the field for away barn purposes like hunter paces, cross country, ect. I would never recommend a stronger bit for any horse i didn't know well. He is a very muslular quarter horse. I do agree I probably need to work more on his basics. I have been just walking and trotting in the field the past few days. He has been doing okay, but when ever we canter or jump he gets excited. Im not looking for this to be a permanet bit, just one for when needed.