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    11-21-2010, 03:20 AM
Stubborn Babies - Help!

I have a job at a barn near me, which is great, I love it and most of the horses are kinda polite (in other words, they're rude, but I can handle it ) except for one- he's young (4ish?) and he's big and as one boarder put it "he knows he's got everyones numbers". He shares a paddock with his sister, and we used to bring them both in at the same time, but now since I'm doing it myself I have to bring them in one at a time, and I was told I have to bring him in first- fine, I can handle that, right?

Basically, all goes well until I try to turn him into the barn and every. Single. Time he stops dead, backs up, spins around and basically does everything in his power to keep his butt out of the barn. I usually manage to get him in, but it's a fight and I'm sick of it. Last Monday I spun him around, backed him down the aisle that serves as the entrance to the barn and tricked him inside, but he caught onto that trick way too fast and we're back fighting.

Of course, that isn't the end of it- once you get him into the barn, getting him into his stall is an entire adventure in itself with all the same antics.

A few times one of the "boarders" who works with a lot of the owners horses has seen this and helped me with the little bugger but frankly it's... embarrassing and any pointers would be helpful, I've had experience with dominant ponies but frankly his size alone is intimidating and I hate it...
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    11-21-2010, 11:52 AM
No offense intended, but, I think this horse is beyond your skill level, and it's time someone called in someone who can more effectively deal with this problem.
    11-21-2010, 02:49 PM
Yes well, that's really not an option. It's not my job to deal with the problem, it's my job to put him to bed and as far as that goes I've dealt with horses with very similar issues and I'm not going to quit because of one horse, I'm just looking for some pointers, thanks. (:
    11-21-2010, 02:58 PM
Green Broke
Have you tried longeing him? Not just making him go around you in pointless circles, but making him learn to yield from all pressure whenever you ask him to?
Have you tried backing him into the barn/stall? You could also lead him in with another horse (you in the saddle of the other horse).
Make sure going into the barn/ stall is a good experience. Give him goodies, pets or a brushing once he's in.
    11-21-2010, 03:08 PM
I can't do any of that- aside from backing him in and making it a good experience I'm afraid.
    11-21-2010, 03:16 PM
Green Broke
Alright, well... why do you have to bring him in first?
If catching is an issue, catch him first, tie him up & take the other horses in. Then he'll be all by himself & may want to go to the barn then.
    11-21-2010, 03:19 PM
If I leave him by himself, or so I've been told, he throws a fit big enough to break down fences and will get 'out of control' to the point where he may be harmful. =\
I'm very at a loss with this one, all the other horses 'naughty' behaviour I have solutions for, it's just him.

I could fill the small barn first and then bring him in and leave his sister to come in last and see how that goes..
    11-21-2010, 03:27 PM
Green Broke
[QUOTE=alexischristina;823612]If I leave him by himself, or so I've been told, he throws a fit big enough to break down fences and will get 'out of control' to the point where he may be harmful.QUOTE]
Seems to me his owners are too afraid to break him of this habit. Sound like he's the sort of horse that could do with a good dose of seperation in a different pen as well as possibly being tied to a solitary post for a while to get over any pulling issues. Horses that are that herdbound tend to show little respect for people...
    11-21-2010, 03:30 PM
You're so right. For about two weeks his sister was kept in a paddock all the way at the other end of the property and he was so much better, now they're back together and it's all starting again.
Annoying. It also worries me that it's been snowing so hard lately and everything is going to be slippery. =\ I'll try backing him in tomorrow, if all else fails.
    11-21-2010, 03:32 PM
Green Broke
Are their other horses that you could put him in with?
Is he the leader with the mare or does she boss him around? If she's the boss, he may do better with a horse he can be dominant over as i've found with some horses (my Arab for example) this position can give them more confidence & make them more willing to leave the other horse.

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