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post #11 of 22 Old 07-15-2011, 10:30 PM
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What a great post! That was not the rope halter , that was your use of feel and timing; applying the pressure , waiting for the response and rewarding with a release. Congratulations! Your horse loves having someone who knows how to be a leader. This is why working with horses is endlessly fascinating; the degrees of finesse and sensitivtiy you can work on will keep you challenged for a lifetime.
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post #12 of 22 Old 07-15-2011, 10:45 PM
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It's a great feeling when your horse doesn't hurry off to join his buddies but rather opts to hang around with you. I'm glad the rope halter worked out so well.
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post #13 of 22 Old 07-16-2011, 04:23 PM
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that's awesome! Congrats! And hopefully you will have even more sucess with him if you keep up the good work! :)

Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.
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post #14 of 22 Old 07-16-2011, 06:05 PM Thread Starter
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Cool

Went out last night and he still followed no problem - I even got him to trot for the first time ahaha I was worried he'd only ever have one speed - lazy!

Something I did learn last night was that he is/was afraid of men - a male friend came out with me to see Clyde, who got very spooky when my friend got too close. And this big horse has not spooked for anything so far, so I thought that was really weird. Well I didn't know exactly what to do, so for a few minutes I had myself lead him, with Tony on the other side just walking with us, then I had Clyde stand while Tony patted him and talked, and the horse sort of jumped around abit - when he relaxed, I gave the lead to Tony and had him walk Clyde around, and I thought maybe it would be a nice positive thing to end on if Tony brought him back to the pasture and cut him loose - that part went wonderfully, so we'll see how he is with a man next time. What could this be the result of? Abuse? Never being exposed to men before?

Next lesson tomorrow for Clyde is a better whoa/stop, and backing up better than he does now - Is this the same process of pressure and release?
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post #15 of 22 Old 07-18-2011, 12:10 PM
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He could have had a bad experience with a man before. He seems like he got over it though!

As for stoping, if he doesn't stop right when you tell him, get him to back up a few steps. After a while he will learn that it is easier to stop when you tell him to.

For backing up, don't expect him to be a pro backer LOL, take one step at a time. Gently pull back on the reins (DO NOT put any leg pressure) and once he take one or two steps completely release, after a while he will be able to back up as much as you want him to :)

One more little bit - Backing up is a very good muscle builder (especially backing up hills) as well as trust builder :)

Good Luck!

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I'm glad it worked out! Sounds like your horse has called your bluff. He just stood there and waited for you to give up. Keep doing what you are doing. If there is a day where he gives you trouble-DON'T GIVE IN! Even if it takes you 2 hours just to get him out of the pasture get him out. He has to know that you are the boss and that he can't just do as he pleases. If you give in once- he seems smart he'll figure it out and then you will be right back to square 1. Good luck! And keep us posted on your progress!
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he seems smart he'll figure it out and then you will be right back to square 1. Good luck! And keep us posted on your progress!
He does seem very smart! I wasn't sure what to expect in terms of horse intelligence, but I am really impressed with how quick he can learn. Or relearn? I don't know how much he already knew, but was choosing to ignore.

I went out to work on woah and backing up, only worked for seriously 10 minutes because of the heat, such a hot day. But even in that small amount of time, with the same technique I use to move him forward, he went from not stopping when I did, and really putting up a fight to take even one step back, to stopping just a teeny bit after I did and backing up afew steps with a bit of halter pressure. He's a great horse! I'm sure on the next cloudy day I'll be able to really polish those two skills up - then it's on to what... yielding the hips and the shoulder, right? Stay tuned!
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I would try that on the ground first before to try doing it under saddle. Can you easily pick up his feet and all the normal things first?

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I would try that on the ground first before to try doing it under saddle. Can you easily pick up his feet and all the normal things first?
This is all groundwork. I haven't put a bit in his mouth yet, or strapped a saddle to him, and won't until I know that he knows this 'normal stuff' lol.

I can't -easily- pick up his feet, but he picks them up now, compared to 2 weeks ago when he wouldn't at all.

It's just toooo hot to work with him today, too....
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Don't blame you too hot to breathe :)
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