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  • How long does it take for a Straight Egyptian Arabian to mature
  • What size saddle and bridle will I need for a13.3 1/2hh arab horse

 
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    04-15-2011, 11:08 PM
  #1
Weanling
Suggestions for Arabian

I have an Egyptian Arabian that turns 2 in June. I know that Arabians tend to mature slower than other breeds and therefore you shouldn't start them under saddle til a little bit later. My baby is also a twin and the smaller twin at that so he's even farther behind than normal. If he was yours, when would you start training? My tentative plan is to start him with ground work later this year, maybe have my very light niece and my friends daughter work him a little under saddle next year, and possibly me start working him under saddle as a 4 yr old....

Thanks!!!
     
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    04-16-2011, 12:36 AM
  #2
Green Broke
I would begin ground work immediately, ground work starts at birth and never ends. At 2 years old, he can easily learn some light lunging (BIG circles, slow gaits, short sessions) and how to carry a light saddle and bridle.

I start my Arabs lightly at 3 and start working them at 4. Being a twin is what concerns me most about your horse, so I would seriously consider starting him at 4 instead. It really depends on how well he matures! There is no right answer, just take it nice and slow and easy!
     
    04-16-2011, 12:42 AM
  #3
Banned
I would have done ground work from birth, riding from 4.
     
    04-16-2011, 12:48 AM
  #4
Weanling
Sorry for the misunderstanding. He's done groundwork as far as manners, some LIGHT lungeing, and he's worn the saddle. I just meant I'd start him a little more seriously at 2. :)
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    04-16-2011, 01:01 AM
  #5
Trained
Ground work is always prudent; but it seems you've got the basics covered.

As far as riding, I would hold off as long as you can, really. 4-5 would be a good time frame to start him undersaddle IF he seems physically and mentally mature at that point. My mom's Arab we started undersaddle at 5, and even then, he still wound up growing 2 more inches between the ages of 5-7.
     
    04-16-2011, 01:14 AM
  #6
Started
Yay for another Egyptian!! I have a Straight Egyptian Arabian gelding. To give you an idea of his size and growth - at 2 years old (on his birthday), he was 13.1hh. As of 2 weeks ago (he'll be 3 at the end of May), he was 14.2 1/2hh. He's still very petite (his breeding).

I started mine lungeing right around 2. I slowly progressed the length and difficulty of the lesson. I started with normal lungeing. Once he was really good with that, I moved on to adding a surcingle. Then I added the bridle to the surcingle. Next, we worked on bitting up. Then I started with the saddle without the bridle. That's where we are right now. We currently switch between saddle and bitting up. Now, all of this was over almost a year and I never progressed unless he was solid at the previous step. In the past month I've finally felt that he's at the right size and build to start letting my trainer/best friend lay across his back - and it's only happened twice. The first time, she just laid across his back on both sides. The second time, she used more force to lay across his back on both sides. He'll be 3 in 1 month and 10 days and I know he won't be built enough to be ridden. Weight-wise, he's 800#, so technically he can support both of us, but he has these super petite legs! He makes a great halter horse, though.

With Egyptians, they're so fine-boned and petite that you have to wait simply because they have to fill out a lot more before they can be ridden. It's not so much that they have to mature because as far as muscle and bone structure go, they mature right along with any other Arabian (and most other breeds for that matter). Just keep building the muscle. On the lunge line, I do a lot of fast trotting to help build muscle. Of course, my guy is bursting to the seams with energy, so he also does a lot of cantering (he's always had crazy endurance), too.

I didn't mean to ramble. His growth depends a lot on what he's fed and the size of his parents. I don't expect mine to reach 15hh (I'd be delighted if he did, though) because the parents were 14.3hh and 15hh. So, if he's small and petite like my guy, bet on waiting until close to 4 years old more than likely. Around 3.5, you'll be able to walk him around and MAYBE lightly trot him (depends on what kind of a mover he is), but just be aware of how he's filling out and growing. That's just through my own experience with my Egyptian and with other Arabians and Egyptians that I've worked with in my life.
     
    04-16-2011, 01:15 AM
  #7
Banned
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Originally Posted by Janasse    
I just meant I'd start him a little more seriously at 2. :)
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What exactly does 'a little more seriously' mean?
     
    04-16-2011, 02:07 AM
  #8
Weanling
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Originally Posted by AlexS    
What exactly does 'a little more seriously' mean?
Right now I don't really work with him more than a couple times a week and not anything strenuous, more just working on manners and things like leading and in-hand practice. Later this year I will work him more "seriously" in actually lunging him more and working toward preparing him to work under saddle in a couple years. :)

The lady I got him from guessed he'd mature at about 15hh. His twin is quite a bit bigger and has more of the typical Egyptian build, while Zaim is more built like a sport horse (not quite as tall/lanky). He's the flaxen chestnut in my profile and there's more pics under my "horses" tab but not any that are very good :)
     
    04-16-2011, 05:31 AM
  #9
Started
I'd say, from your words, that you have good knowledge & feel of your horse, & have a reasonable plan for him.

The people on this board's qualifications to advise you are unknown, & they have never laid eyes on your horse. Likewise, they'll not be observing his responses to your educating him, his own growth spurts, both physically & mentally, and so on. So, you're in the best position to make all of the adjustments necessary, as his education progresses.

One thing: the education of each horse is a unique matter, since the horse is unique, so if you take the time it takes, it'll take less time. Flexibility/adjusting to the horse's needs is key.

Good Luck! (I'm an Arab lover! :))
     
    04-16-2011, 05:41 AM
  #10
Weanling
Thanks Northern. I LOVE Arabs. This makes my 3rd one and the 1st below 21yrs old. Quite the jump there.
     

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