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post #21 of 26 Old 04-16-2013, 11:47 AM Thread Starter
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He's back into work... first day was terrible. A bit " &%#$ you" on his part, not the fearfulness of before, just an ass. EXTREMELY frustrating.

However, Day 4, we are back on track!

Since he got sick, there's been a dramatic change in his personality (which is why I think I got the "finger" when I actually worked him on Saturday for the first time in awhile- he's generally just seems much more comfortable, so I figure he was testing his limits).

I have been handleing him, and just generally being "nice" to him since he's been sick- grooming, walking (he and the others). Not exactly cuddly, per say, but any work that brought respiration up was a no no. He can't stand the other gelding still, but I don't blame him. That gelding is very annoying, but he likes the company of my mare.

He also decided to break into MY HOUSE... opened my gate, up the steps, on the porch, and straight in through the front door (door was open, was a nice day, I was letting things air out). I came home (I was at neighbors) and found a very, very messy house with a throughly pleased-with-himself horse in my kitchen.

(I didn't think of pictures until after I got him out and was cleaning up)

Day 2, there was initial attitude at working, but he quickly got over it and went about his day. Day 3, he said "ok, this is what we are doing now" and we just picked up where we left off. Day 4 (today) I ponied him around him my mare and we walked/trotted around the property (after going a bit in the round pen, but- the round pen is incredibly boring, and neither one likes it in there so I try to keep it at a minimum). He did awesome! He doesn't exactly know how to monitor his pace (either too fast or too slow) but that'll come around. I just decided to pony to change things up a bit, give him new perspective.

Thank you all for your suggestions!
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post #22 of 26 Old 04-16-2013, 11:55 AM
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I agree about the pain issue. It doesn't make sense that he doesn't want to play. My two 6yo (going on 7yo) geldings play ALL OF THE TIME. I have to watch leaving my rubber buckets out bc they play with them and move them, and they're new, so I don't want them to be ripped up toys.
Maybe the pond is soothing to his pain. You won't know for sure until your Vet checks him out.

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post #23 of 26 Old 04-16-2013, 12:22 PM Thread Starter
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The vet didnt see any particular issues with him. He has been MUCH more playful and "full of himself" as of late, and engaging with people and my mare (he really just simply doesnt like that other gelding... went so far as to let himself and my mare into other pasture and leave the other gelding trapped on the other side of the fence).

This guy is just too smart for his own good. I had to get an electric gate with mechanical lock... thus far he hasnt figured that one out! Also, i nos use tie down
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post #24 of 26 Old 04-16-2013, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
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Grr... I know use tie down straps for other gates. 2 per gate.

He's definitely stepping up a notch in the playful, curious mode. Which I am happy for.. but golly he's a handful!
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post #25 of 26 Old 04-16-2013, 01:51 PM
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It sounds as if he was caught up in something, had to fight his way his reactions are protective. Sounds like you are making methodical progress, and that's what its all about.
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post #26 of 26 Old 06-01-2013, 02:52 PM Thread Starter
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Soooo.... I got on Egan today, for his first time (really got on him- bit, rein, saddle and on top)

I had the supervision of a trainer. When speaking to her of my reservations, she said "you are going to ground work him into the ground, you need to take the next step" ... So, I did it. Hell or high water.

Trust me, considering his past issues, I was expecting the worst.


and by awesome... I mean awesome.

We started on the lunge line, after a lap or two, she said "let him go, you don't need me" and he and I went on our merry way (in the pen).

We walked, trotted, and cantered- both direction and in figure 8's- great. He was in a d-link snaffle, direct rein, Aussie saddle (fits him best). He was a champ. He got a little bit of attitude a couple of times, briefly- pinned his ears a touch and then let loose and full ears forward. He seemed to love it, take all the newness with a zest and a urge t go on. When it came time to a whoa, he wasn't perfect but listened well and anticipated everything. He paid attention amazingly well, and reqlly worked hard to figure it all out.

He WAS a problem guy, I can't see that anymore. He still gets. Bit grumpy and a bit frumpy- but my job is to keep it interesting and keep him thinking he has a purpose. Now that we have gotten over this hump (actually riding), I think that's going to be much easier, ha.

For a short guy, he's quick (quicker than I imagined) and VERY much more forward under saddle than ground (thou knows his whoa surprisingly well). I think what it boils down to is- he was bored, and I was weary ( and by weary, I'll admit I was a tad bit sacred of him- as I think any reasonable person would be if they saw what I saw from him- that does include the trainer who was present for my first session with him)

All I can say is wow... Despite his previous issues, I'm glad I stuck it through. I know it's just the #1 ride... But he really was a champ. I cannot begin to explain how good he did- even my trainer friend said (and she's the brutally honest type) that he did amazing.

I'm incredibly proud, and I just wanted to share that.

It was absolutely amazing to ride on top of him and see the little gears turning in his brain to figure things out- you could really feel him thinking it through! More impressively, he would figure it out QUICK... After the 3rd time of leaning back an preparing for whoa- he was stopped. I'd squeeze slightly and he was moving out.

He proved to be much more sensitive than I thought.. Still, altogether, he was fantastic.

He really gave it his all, and I can't speak anything better of that little red demon spawn ;)

Kudos, Mr. Egan... Kudos.
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