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        06-27-2014, 10:41 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
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    I know I won't break her. But a whip isn't doing anything, I think it would take a cattle prod to change her mind. If she doesn't want to go, she doesn't think. She doesn't watch where she is going, she is just hell bent on going the way she wants. And this horse can rear with her head bent. And if you don't give her her head she will just fall over sideways since her head is pulled around. I don't think all the
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    With that being said. I would stop riding this mare and seek a professional who specializes in problem horses
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        06-27-2014, 10:48 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    I had a mare like that she was given to me, I took her on as a project. She reared, spun, bolted, had a seriously bad attitude, serious temper tantrums, when one thing did not work she tried something else. She was very clever. She was 12 years old when I got her. What I did is completely restarted her like she was a colt that was just getting started and knew nothing.

    What I discovered is she was very insecure and had no confidence as she had not had a leader and had been allowed to get away her horrible behavior and it just escalated. It took about 6 weeks of serious work and lots of time spent at her thinking tree before I dared even climb on her back. Once she realized I was not backing down, I was not going to hurt her, and I was going to keep her safe she did a 180 degree transformation she became a pleasure to be around, ride and I trusted her to not kill me.

    I recommend starting her from scratch like you would a colt in a round pen, gain her trust and confidence. Do lots of interesting things that she is comfortable with. I love using obstacles it gets them paying attention to you and keeps them thinking. As her confidence builds then ask for a little more, but don't push her to the point of exploding always give her a way to find the right answer and reward the slightest try. Right now she does not trust you to keep her safe on the trail or away from the herd, build the trust in place she is comfortable. Once a horse stops thinking and starts reacting it can get ugly really fast as you have discovered. If you do not have the knowledge or skill then have her sent to a trainer.
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        06-27-2014, 10:56 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    I train colts for a living. This is why I like the fresh ones. She was soured by a spur happy reining trainer at the beginning of her training, then sat in the pasture for years. Then I restarted her like a fresh colt. She had major attitude problems. Then I got her trotting and loping nicely, and my boss sold her to a 16 year old girl. I have been working with the girl, but this hirse is over her head, which is why the rearing started. Now I can take her through any obstacle course I set up, no fights. Take her on a trail and she has a meltdown
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        06-27-2014, 11:02 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
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    I train colts for a living. This is why I like the fresh ones. She was soured by a spur happy reining trainer at the beginning of her training, then sat in the pasture for years. Then I restarted her like a fresh colt. She had major attitude problems. Then I got her trotting and loping nicely, and my boss sold her to a 16 year old girl. I have been working with the girl, but this hirse is over her head, which is why the rearing started. Now I can take her through any obstacle course I set up, no fights. Take her on a trail and she has a meltdown
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    Perhaps just keep her off the trails for now? Just focus on building in a calm environment for her and the girl riding her.
         
        06-27-2014, 11:14 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    Maybe we will back off it for a little while, set up some crazy obstacle courses and get her listening to every little command 100% of the time. I am seriously considering trying clicker training with her too. I just need to find something she likes. She has denied apples and carrots already.
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        06-27-2014, 11:16 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by TimWhit91    
    Maybe we will back off it for a little while, set up some crazy obstacle courses and get her listening to every little command 100% of the time. I am seriously considering trying clicker training with her too. I just need to find something she likes. She has denied apples and carrots already.
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    If it were my horse that is what I would do. Build up her confidence in her comfort zone then slowly introduce trail. Maybe like just haul somewhere, work her beside the trailer, go a little down a trail, end on a good note and leave. I'd avoid a melt down at all costs. Because that isn't helping anyone. Work on what she is doing good with now and slowly introduce the things where she is insecure.
         
        06-27-2014, 11:19 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    I will do that. She is very smart, but she has a few screws loose right now
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        06-27-2014, 11:20 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by TimWhit91    
    I will do that. She is very smart, but she has a few screws loose right now
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    Best of luck, update us on how she is doing
         
        06-27-2014, 11:59 PM
      #19
    Showing
    I bo't my kids a welsh that turned out to have a long list. I started him at the very beginning with haltering, leading and going on, careful to not leave any holes in his training. I learned later that if the seller's kids couldn't handle him, a 2x4 was used on him. Within 3 months he was a different pony.
         
        06-28-2014, 12:13 AM
      #20
    Weanling
    Hopefully this mare will turn around. Her dad was trained by the same guy, he is very worried about being spurred, but he is a functional riding horse who can be ridden anywhere as long as he trusts his rider
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